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Standard User pcoventry76
(knowledge is power) Sat 03-May-14 15:53:50
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FTTP


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Just wdonering if this was an error.

My line checker says.

http://prntscr.com/3fs4kr

My exchange is one of the 2014 ones. But when I do a check for ultrafast infinity I only get normal FTTC options.

So is this still in the loop to be done?

Also is there a path to upgrade from FTTC to FTTP or is it seoerate?

I'm asking as I could use this for business (video intensive - working from home) and I am in a connected cities voucher area. Also I know it's £100 a month for FTTP now but I'm not bothered about that)

Thanks
Standard User Rastus
(committed) Sat 03-May-14 16:28:02
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[re: pcoventry76] [link to this post]
 
FTTP and FTTPoD (on Demand) are 2 different things.

FTTP and FTTC are an either/or but no choice which you have, that's down to how your cabinet area is provisioned.

FTTPoD is an option on some exchanges for those who can already get FTTC, but it'll cost you big bucks.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sat 03-May-14 17:01:41
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[re: pcoventry76] [link to this post]
 
For FTTPoD pricing (ex Vat) see this article and this one.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 58.7/14.6Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Standard User pcoventry76
(knowledge is power) Sat 03-May-14 18:18:21
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Re: FTTP


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Thanks

I was told it's £99 now. I have a voucher from the council for £3000 however we might have GEA whatever in the area. The exchange is 300M away so I am going to ask the engineer when he comes to see me later in the month.
Standard User pcoventry76
(knowledge is power) Sat 03-May-14 18:18:54
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Re: FTTP


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Again I know this.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 03-May-14 18:29:49
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[re: pcoventry76] [link to this post]
 
£99 per month is the cost from Openreach, there is the wholesale and retail costs to be added to that

The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User pcoventry76
(knowledge is power) Sat 03-May-14 18:47:04
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I must have misread when they said it had gone from £38 to £99 I assumed that was all the costs.

Well anything up to £200 a month would be okay.

Thanks for the information
Standard User AndyHCZ
(member) Sat 03-May-14 19:47:08
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[re: pcoventry76] [link to this post]
 
Is £99 + VAT - but will be close to £200 when you take into account the ISP overheads (bandwidth charges etc.)

You need to get a quote for the installation. Around 1 in 3 incur 'excessive construction' charges.
Standard User Fastman2
(regular) Sat 03-May-14 20:05:49
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[re: pcoventry76] [link to this post]
 
FOD is priced differently per each CP -you will need to speak to an Providier - (engineer wont be able to help you) -- it is also distance dependant and you have to be on an FTTC enabled cab to even concisder puchasing FOD -- distance is from you to aggregation nde (not distance to enabled cab assuming you are on an enabled cabinet)
Standard User pcoventry76
(knowledge is power) Sat 03-May-14 20:24:37
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Thanks for all the comments and advice. I will look into it.
Standard User cornishweb
(regular) Sun 04-May-14 15:07:21
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Re: FTTP


[re: pcoventry76] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by pcoventry76:
Just wdonering if this was an error.

My line checker says.

http://prntscr.com/3fs4kr

My exchange is one of the 2014 ones. But when I do a check for ultrafast infinity I only get normal FTTC options.

So is this still in the loop to be done?

Also is there a path to upgrade from FTTC to FTTP or is it seoerate?

I'm asking as I could use this for business (video intensive - working from home) and I am in a connected cities voucher area. Also I know it's £100 a month for FTTP now but I'm not bothered about that)

Thanks


Hi i have just upgraded to FTTP at home but it never cost £100 only £20 a month
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sun 04-May-14 15:14:14
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This is the difference between FTTP on Demand and native FTTP

The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User pcoventry76
(knowledge is power) Sun 04-May-14 15:40:42
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Thanks for letting me know. I am confused as to which price would apply to me. I guess I can order it and find out.
Standard User cornishweb
(regular) Sun 04-May-14 15:43:54
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I have not gone with the fastest only Unlimited BT Infinity 2 which is plenty for me.
Standard User Rastus
(committed) Sun 04-May-14 15:53:36
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In your opening post you gave a link to a screenshot showing FTTPoD was available to you. cornishweb has native FTTP.

I replied to your OP briefly stating some facts about FTTP / FTTPoD.

To which you answered; "Again I know this."

If you're not confused, then I certainly am!
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sun 04-May-14 16:26:11
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This option is NOT available to pcoventry, you had the GEA-FTTP (native FTTP) option, he has the choice of FTTC or FTTP on Demand.

To opt for FTTP on Demand you have to pay more and only the 330 Mbps option is available

The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sun 04-May-14 16:28:33
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Its easy you will be paying the higher price, i.e. the £99+VAT plus what ever markup the retailer wants to add so likely to be close to £200. Then of course the install costs.

People who have FTTP available as their only fast option, i.e. FTTC does not appear on the checker get the cheaper version that is the same price as GEA-FTTC. Around 100,000 premises have this as their superfast connection, but a good few million have the option of Fibre on Demand as well as FTTC.

The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User indigobanana
(regular) Sun 04-May-14 16:37:24
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If a handful of customers on a certain cabinet choose FTTPoD will Standard FTTP become available to other customers in these areas? (i.e. a subsidised FTTP rollout). It's something I've been pondering

With PlusNet on 20CN ADSL Max, I live in hope...

Fibre in Cumbria Exchange & Cab Map
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sun 04-May-14 17:01:58
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Not at this time, maybe in ten years time...

A cabinet serves many postcodes e.g. a 200 line cabinet would need around 8 splitters and 20 manifolds installed to serve every one with FTTP, even if people were clustered ideally.

A cluster of eight premises might be able to negotiate some discount if they all order FTTP on Demand at the same time and from the same retailer and negotiate with Openreach

The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User cornishweb
(regular) Sun 04-May-14 17:16:12
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
This option is NOT available to pcoventry, you had the GEA-FTTP (native FTTP) option, he has the choice of FTTC or FTTP on Demand.

To opt for FTTP on Demand you have to pay more and only the 330 Mbps option is available


Bit lost with all this, i know i can upgrade to the 330 package but its £50 a month
Standard User BatBoy
(legend) Sun 04-May-14 17:31:55
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Do you understand the difference between FTTP and FTTPoD ?


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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sun 04-May-14 19:55:29
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[re: cornishweb] [link to this post]
 
Yes you can, but those where FTTP on Demand is shown on the checker cannot and have to pay a higher price.

In short you got lucky by being one of the 100,000 where FTTP from Openreach was installed to within a few metres of your home ahead of you ordering it.

The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User cornishweb
(member) Sun 04-May-14 20:44:55
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First time i have had any luck smile will let you know how it goes.

Edited by cornishweb (Sun 04-May-14 20:45:17)

Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 04-May-14 21:56:30
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You're going to upgrade to 330MBps from 80Mbps?

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 58.7/14.6Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Standard User cornishweb
(member) Sun 25-May-14 17:06:04
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Got connected 3 days ago all seems good so far speeds seem great, 75MB Download 21MB Upload which is plenty and cant see any reason to upgrade to top package.
Standard User pcoventry76
(knowledge is power) Sun 25-May-14 19:57:06
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In reply to a post by cornishweb:
Got connected 3 days ago all seems good so far speeds seem great, 75MB Download 21MB Upload which is plenty and cant see any reason to upgrade to top package.


75 down 21 up on a 330/30 product?
Standard User brightd
(experienced) Sun 25-May-14 20:19:12
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Native FTTP is available from BP Retail on 40/10, 80/20, 200/20 and 330/30. It is FTTPoD that is only available at 330/30. Of course you already know the difference so I will not explain that again.

David

plusnet Unlimited customer
DrayTek Vigor 2830n
Standard User Fastman2
(regular) Sun 25-May-14 21:06:18
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you ca onlyt FOd if you are on an enabled FTTC Cabinet
Standard User epyon
(experienced) Tue 27-May-14 18:37:47
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Ahh i wasn't aware of this actually.

Standard User pcoventry76
(knowledge is power) Wed 28-May-14 11:42:52
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I do - and I also know after speaking to an Engi that it's business premises only but when I rent my office I can then get it

So there's no need to discuss it any further smile
Standard User brightd
(experienced) Wed 28-May-14 13:31:24
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[re: pcoventry76] [link to this post]
 
I have never seen anything that suggests that FTTPoD is for business premises only. I was under the impression that if your pockets were big enough ad you were on the appropriate exchange then you could get FTTPoD to a residential property.

David

plusnet Unlimited customer
DrayTek Vigor 2830n
Standard User greenglide
(experienced) Wed 28-May-14 14:44:11
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[re: brightd] [link to this post]
 
Yes - FTTPoD is available to "anyone" who can afford it on an FTTC cab that is in a FTTPoD area.

Which retailers choose to sell it and whether it is deemed as a "business product" is just words at the end of the day.

BT Infinity 2 - IP profile 77 / 20 - super fast!
Previously BE Unlimited - 21,000 Download 1,200 Upload but then moved house - 6,500 Down, 1Mb/s up - gutted!
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Standard User pcoventry76
(knowledge is power) Wed 28-May-14 16:22:45
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In reply to a post by brightd:
I have never seen anything that suggests that FTTPoD is for business premises only. I was under the impression that if your pockets were big enough ad you were on the appropriate exchange then you could get FTTPoD to a residential property.


Just going on what the guy said.. he seemed dedent enough so I have no reason to doubt him
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 28-May-14 16:38:29
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[re: pcoventry76] [link to this post]
 
Try asking another one.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 58.7/14.6Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Allergy information: This post was manufactured in an environment where nuts are present. It may include traces of understatement, litotes and humour.
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