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Standard User spile
(newbie) Fri 14-May-21 16:02:40
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Has anyone removed their BT landline?


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I have BT FTTP (Smarthub 2) and a copper landline that is being moved to Digital Voice.
I also have a VOIP line that I pay Voipfone £2 a month for. I use a Gigaset N300 to connect the VOIP and landline.
The obvious way forward is to connect the N300 directly to the Digital Voice port of the Smarthub 2 when I am switched over - As it is a PSTN port, I assume this will work?

So effectively N300 connects to SMARTHUB2 via LAN (VOIPFONE line 2) and also PSTN/DIGITAL VOICE (BT provided line 2)

Are there alternative options that I should consider?
I presume that I am not going to save anything by moving the landline number to Voiphone as I would still have to pay line rental (residential) and outgoing call charges would be higher than BT?
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 14-May-21 16:11:07
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Re: Has anyone removed their BT landline?


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Might be worth posing your question again in either the VOIP or FTTP sections instead

Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 14-May-21 19:25:47
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BT Digital Voice is not PSTN. It's basically a flavour of VOIP. The physical copper to your house will be redundant. So if it's cheaper to keep the BT DV then that makes sense.

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Standard User Grimers
(member) Fri 14-May-21 20:31:15
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Re: Has anyone removed their BT landline?


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Aren't BT still offering Digital Voice over copper even with their FTTP service? Sorry, I've probably totally misunderstood your post. tongue
Standard User j0hn83
(knowledge is power) Fri 14-May-21 21:52:14
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Re: Has anyone removed their BT landline?


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In reply to a post by Grimers:
Aren't BT still offering Digital Voice over copper even with their FTTP service? Sorry, I've probably totally misunderstood your post. tongue


No.
Digital Voice is simply BT's marketing name for VOIP.
That would require the copper line to have an active broadband connection or how else would calls be made?

BT offer FTTP with Digital Voice (VOIP) with calls made over the fibre, or FTTP with calls made over a copper landline (PSTN).
They also offer data only FTTP now with no voice at all.

You can also get FTTC from BT with Digital Voice.
Calls are made via VOIP by connecting a telephone to the Hub rather than the master socket.

Edited by j0hn83 (Fri 14-May-21 22:10:54)

Standard User MHC
(sensei) Fri 14-May-21 22:26:33
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However, the Analog output from the SmartHub2 mimics a PSTN/Copper connection and it should be possible to then connect that into the Gigaset N300.


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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 14-May-21 22:36:01
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In reply to a post by MHC:
However, the Analog output from the SmartHub2 mimics a PSTN/Copper connection and it should be possible to then connect that into the Gigaset N300.
You can have FTTP without a copper line at all.

So presumably an upgrade from xDLS or FTTC to an FTTP connection with Digital Voice would ignore the copper line. Not so to do would be a nonsense. It would in fact not be Digital Voice.

The facility you cite can only be there purely for FTTC with DV.

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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Fri 14-May-21 22:39:22
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
The facility you cite can only be there purely for FTTC with DV.


FTTP with DV


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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 14-May-21 23:17:29
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In reply to a post by MHC:
In reply to a post by RobertoS:
The facility you cite can only be there purely for FTTC with DV.
FTTP with DV
The Digital Voice on FTTP would not simultaneously provide an analogue output, as it would have no connection at the exchange to the PSTN network. It would only provide an analogue output for "standard" phone. (I think that's what they call it).

You said:
In reply to a post by MHC:
However, the Analog output from the SmartHub2 mimics a PSTN/Copper connection and it should be possible to then connect that into the Gigaset N300.
But that is not the case for the connection under discussion. FTTP with DV. The Hub will not have an analogue output. Or even if it did, it couldn't go anywhere. Unless their is a weird way a user could have BT FTTP with Digital Voice and simultaneously an LLU phone-only connection, with the user communicating on both lines at the same time.

If that is possible, I confess I was unaware of it! wink

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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Fri 14-May-21 23:43:31
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The SmartHub 2 includes a basic ATA that does the VoIP/Digital Voice to analog conversion and presents the output on a standard BT socket. The user then plugs in a standard handset or as BT suggest a DECT base station.

It will only work with BT (and possibly Plusnet in near future) and no other VoIP provider.


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