Fibre 2 - Doesnt exist anymore?

Hi,

We have Fibre 2 (FTTC) and get 75 Mbps, which is fine for us.
We'll need to renew in Jan 2022.
It doesn't look like Fibre 2 is available anymore - is that correct?

If forced down the full fibre (FTTP) route, is it easy to switch?

Thanks for any advice you can offer,

Cheers,

Zebs

Do you have FTTP available then? If you do then moving to it is a relative doddle (they install the new FTTP line and then the router just plugs into it). On FTTP you can still get the same 80/20 package that you were on with FTTC but it is a much more stable connection (it doesn't have the vagaries of distance affecting speeds).

If you can't get FTTP then you would still be able to get 80/20 on FTTC - it might just be the package name has changed.

Personally, if FTTP is available then even if you are taking the lowest package it is still worth doing - it costs the same with BT as FTTC so you don't pay more for the better connection.

Note that FTTP is more environmentally friendly too as the power required to operate is much lower.

The only downside is the landline issue.
That is, if you want a landline from the provider, then you will be forced to use their router. For the vast majority of residential customers that will be absolutely fine. It’s just something to be aware of.

You are able to keep copper line, as I did However it will cost extra

In reply to a post by flippery:

You are able to keep copper line, as I did However it will cost extra

Yes, you're right.
Though at some point OpenReach will want to decommission it I suspect.

The guys who did my FTTP install said they were supposed to disconnect the old copper line as part of the setup. Not sure how true that is though. Or how well it is enforced, probably not at this point in OpenReach's transition.

I've also kept my FTTC / copper line temporarily, but the landline number is being ported to Sipgate on Tuesday, so after that I shouldn't need it ever again 🤞🏻

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The guys who did my FTTP install said they were supposed to disconnect the old copper line as part of the setup. Not sure how true that is though.

Worrying as that implies perhaps they have done so many installs with digital voice, they assumed this applies to every communication provider.

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In reply to a post by MilesR:

The guys who did my FTTP install said they were supposed to disconnect the old copper line as part of the setup. Not sure how true that is though.

Worrying as that implies perhaps they have done so many installs with digital voice, they assumed this applies to every communication provider.

Thankfully the people who did mine were quick to ask whether or not I needed it left in place.
It also helped that it was connected at the very top of my property where their ladders wouldn't reach to 🙂

In reply to a post by MilesR:

The only downside is the landline issue.
That is, if you want a landline from the provider, then you will be forced to use their router. For the vast majority of residential customers that will be absolutely fine. It’s just something to be aware of.

Are you sure?

Quite apart from the fact that an FTTP install doesn't touch your landline (or need to grab your phone number).

The overhead fibre line contained both copper and fibre. They reconnected copper at eaves and took fibre separately into ont
Maybe that was what installer meant .

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In reply to a post by MilesR:

The only downside is the landline issue.
That is, if you want a landline from the provider, then you will be forced to use their router. For the vast majority of residential customers that will be absolutely fine. It’s just something to be aware of.

Are you sure?

Quite apart from the fact that an FTTP install doesn't touch your landline (or need to grab your phone number).

If a residential broadband (FTTC) customer who currently has and uses a landline phone, selects a new package that is FTTP and opts to port / keep their number...then yes it does affect the "landline".
Physically it is obviously a different connection, but it could potentially affect their usage of it.
E.g. someone who has FTTC, then opted for BT FTTP currently has their own VDSL router at the moment and a phone plugged into the master socket ...they would find they then had to use the BT router just so that Digital Voice would work

That's the point I'm trying to highlight

In reply to a post by flippery:

The overhead fibre line contained both copper and fibre. They reconnected copper at eaves and took fibre separately into ont
Maybe that was what installer meant .

Funnily enough I asked about the hybrid cabling, but they (Kelly Group guys) said they don't use it.

The guy who did my install just said that as part of the FTTP installs they're asked to remove the copper line. But who knows whether that's true or not on a wider scale.
Ours are all overhead pole fed and he said at some point (when all homes are moved to FTTP), OpenReach would come around removing the old lines.

As I said, they were from Kelly Group, so I would take it with a large pinch of salt 🙂