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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 14-Oct-21 20:18:34
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Fibre 2 - Doesnt exist anymore?


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Hi,

We have Fibre 2 (FTTC) and get 75 Mbps, which is fine for us.
We'll need to renew in Jan 2022.
It doesn't look like Fibre 2 is available anymore - is that correct?

If forced down the full fibre (FTTP) route, is it easy to switch?

Thanks for any advice you can offer,

Cheers,

Zebs
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 15-Oct-21 13:34:34
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Re: Fibre 2 - Doesnt exist anymore?


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Do you have FTTP available then? If you do then moving to it is a relative doddle (they install the new FTTP line and then the router just plugs into it). On FTTP you can still get the same 80/20 package that you were on with FTTC but it is a much more stable connection (it doesn't have the vagaries of distance affecting speeds).

If you can't get FTTP then you would still be able to get 80/20 on FTTC - it might just be the package name has changed.

Personally, if FTTP is available then even if you are taking the lowest package it is still worth doing - it costs the same with BT as FTTC so you don't pay more for the better connection.
Standard User jabuzzard
(experienced) Fri 15-Oct-21 16:46:30
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Note that FTTP is more environmentally friendly too as the power required to operate is much lower.


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Standard User MilesR
(regular) Fri 15-Oct-21 20:19:06
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The only downside is the landline issue.
That is, if you want a landline from the provider, then you will be forced to use their router. For the vast majority of residential customers that will be absolutely fine. It’s just something to be aware of.

TalkTalk Future Fibre - 500Mbps / 75Mbps
Standard User flippery
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 16-Oct-21 08:52:54
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You are able to keep copper line, as I did However it will cost extra
Standard User MilesR
(regular) Sat 16-Oct-21 09:03:29
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In reply to a post by flippery:
You are able to keep copper line, as I did However it will cost extra


Yes, you're right.
Though at some point OpenReach will want to decommission it I suspect.

The guys who did my FTTP install said they were supposed to disconnect the old copper line as part of the setup. Not sure how true that is though. Or how well it is enforced, probably not at this point in OpenReach's transition.

I've also kept my FTTC / copper line temporarily, but the landline number is being ported to Sipgate on Tuesday, so after that I shouldn't need it ever again 🤞🏻

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 16-Oct-21 11:13:03
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The guys who did my FTTP install said they were supposed to disconnect the old copper line as part of the setup. Not sure how true that is though.


Worrying as that implies perhaps they have done so many installs with digital voice, they assumed this applies to every communication provider.

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Standard User MilesR
(regular) Sat 16-Oct-21 11:40:46
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In reply to a post by jchamier:
In reply to a post by MilesR:
The guys who did my FTTP install said they were supposed to disconnect the old copper line as part of the setup. Not sure how true that is though.


Worrying as that implies perhaps they have done so many installs with digital voice, they assumed this applies to every communication provider.


Thankfully the people who did mine were quick to ask whether or not I needed it left in place.
It also helped that it was connected at the very top of my property where their ladders wouldn't reach to 🙂

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Standard User pluralist
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 16-Oct-21 12:31:51
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In reply to a post by MilesR:
The only downside is the landline issue.
That is, if you want a landline from the provider, then you will be forced to use their router. For the vast majority of residential customers that will be absolutely fine. It’s just something to be aware of.
Are you sure?

Quite apart from the fact that an FTTP install doesn't touch your landline (or need to grab your phone number).

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Standard User flippery
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 16-Oct-21 12:38:36
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The overhead fibre line contained both copper and fibre. They reconnected copper at eaves and took fibre separately into ont
Maybe that was what installer meant .
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