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Standard User Nervous
(experienced) Mon 02-Sep-24 19:39:25
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Digital Voice with change over to FTTP


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I am on FTTC 80/20 at the moment but got a letter from BT saying that they are switching me over to DV and upgrading me to FTTP without charge or renewal of contract.
The slowest speed with FTTP is 150/28 I believe so will I get this speed or stay of 80/20?

I live in a small block of 9 flats in case it is relevant.
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Mon 02-Sep-24 20:34:53
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They do offer 74/20 or similar through bothe Plusnet and EE - so you may end up with that .


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Standard User Nervous
(experienced) Mon 02-Sep-24 21:00:42
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Ah yes if there is a slower package available there is no reason for them to give me a speed boost at no cost.

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Standard User pluralist
(knowledge is power) Mon 02-Sep-24 23:27:04
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I'll be surprised if somewhere they haven't told the OP the FTTP will be from EE.

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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Mon 02-Sep-24 23:44:40
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If residential/comsumer then possibly or might even push to PN.

Business grade will probably still be with BT ...


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Standard User pyarwood
(regular) Tue 03-Sep-24 09:11:19
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BT are pushing to EE not PN
BT are denying PN exists and its surprising they still own it as since buying it hasnt really been interested in it
Standard User pyarwood
(regular) Tue 03-Sep-24 09:15:14
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You are probably in an FTTP Priority area meaning the will move you to the same speed on FTTP
and entice you to upgrade maybe free but with contract
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Tue 03-Sep-24 09:18:58
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Spouting more rubbish ...

I know at least two users who BT suggested a move to PN.


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Standard User Nervous
(experienced) Tue 03-Sep-24 09:24:55
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In reply to a post by pluralist:
I'll be surprised if somewhere they haven't told the OP the FTTP will be from EE.


No mention of moving to EE, PN or anything else other than moving and reference to keeping existing Hub. They of course could mention it when contacting to arrange date.
Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 03-Sep-24 10:35:56
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In reply to a post by pyarwood:
BT are denying PN exists and its surprising they still own it as since buying it hasnt really been interested in it

They are interested in it, in so far as they use it to compete at the budget end of the market.

Oliver.
Standard User pyarwood
(regular) Tue 03-Sep-24 10:40:02
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So why did they kill off the budget mobile division and kill off the phone division
They have not invested in it to supply IPv6 to plusnet as they do their own customers.
Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 03-Sep-24 10:43:11
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In reply to a post by pyarwood:
So why did they kill off the budget mobile division and kill off the phone division

I was talking about home broadband where Plusnet consistently undercuts BT (retail) prices.

In reply to a post by pyarwood:
They have not invested in it to supply IPv6 to plusnet as they do their own customers.

Budget end of the market, as I said.

Oliver.
Standard User pyarwood
(regular) Tue 03-Sep-24 10:44:11
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BT wouldnt have moved ANY customers from a BT contract to an PN contract as they are traded as separate companies unlike BT and EE.
I can imagine BT recommending a PN if the out of contract user says they dont want EE but would not transfers the existing contract to PN.
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Tue 03-Sep-24 10:46:31
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More rubbish being spouted.

PlusNet are NOT a separate company, they are part of BT plc the same as EE.


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Standard User candlerb
(knowledge is power) Tue 03-Sep-24 12:25:52
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> The slowest speed with FTTP is 150/28 I believe

40/10 is available on Openreach FTTP. There used to be 40/2 as well, but it was withdrawn.

According to Equinox pricing, the higher speed bands are slightly *cheaper*:
https://www.openreach.com/content/dam/openreach/open...

I don't know why that's allowed, given that 40/10 is regulated by OFCOM.
Standard User TinyMongomery
(legend) Tue 03-Sep-24 13:12:01
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Plusnet was bought by BT in 2007, but it operates as a separate business, so its broadband deals are often quite different from those of its parent company.


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Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Wed 04-Sep-24 00:15:17
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In reply to a post by candlerb:
> The slowest speed with FTTP is 150/28 I believe

40/10 is available on Openreach FTTP. There used to be 40/2 as well, but it was withdrawn.

According to Equinox pricing, the higher speed bands are slightly *cheaper*:
https://www.openreach.com/content/dam/openreach/open...

I don't know why that's allowed, given that 40/10 is regulated by OFCOM.


Looking at that, should just be doing 160,550,1.2 and 1.8 The rest are just too close in price to be worth bothering with, way too many speed tariff's there.

On your point regarding Ofcom, another interesting observation if I understand the document properly is the higher tiered products have a lower annual inflation.

Edited by Chrysalis (Wed 04-Sep-24 00:17:12)

Standard User pyarwood
(regular) Sun 08-Sep-24 05:50:47
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Plusnet is nothing like EE BT dont sell PLUSNET products and is run as a separate retailer to BT.

Are you saying that openreach are the same company as BT retail.
Standard User pyarwood
(regular) Sun 08-Sep-24 05:58:24
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Think they include the slower speeds so people can see its cheaper to get a faster speed.
Standard User candlerb
(knowledge is power) Sun 08-Sep-24 10:52:06
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In reply to a post by pyarwood:
Plusnet is nothing like EE BT dont sell PLUSNET products and is run as a separate retailer to BT.

Are you saying that openreach are the same company as BT retail.

Here is the BT Group annual report:
https://www.bt.com/bt-plc/assets/documents/investors...

On page 15:
Trusted relationships across our EE, BT
and Plusnet brands help us understand
customers’ current and future needs and
create new products to meet them.

Pages 226 to 230 give the details of "related undertakings", i.e. companies owned within the group.

On page 229:

British Telecommunications plc 100% ordinary
EE (Group) Limited 100% ordinary

On page 230:

Plusnet plc 100% ordinary
Openreach Limited 100% ordinary

Therefore, of course you're right that Openreach and BT Retail are not the same company; and that applies equally to Plusnet and EE. But they are all peer companies and brands under BT Group. It's a marketing decision for each retail unit whether or not they sell each other's products.
Standard User Knneo
(newbie) Fri 15-Aug-25 01:07:30
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They will suppress your speeds unless you pay up
Standard User Knneo
(newbie) Fri 15-Aug-25 01:13:17
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How do I up vote this? Go look at a plusnet hub then a BTSH2... what's the difference apart from the paint job?
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