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Standard User pyarwood
(regular) Tue 03-Sep-24 10:40:02
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Re: Digital Voice with change over to FTTP


[re: Oliver341] [link to this post] 		 
So why did they kill off the budget mobile division and kill off the phone division
They have not invested in it to supply IPv6 to plusnet as they do their own customers.
Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 03-Sep-24 10:43:11
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Re: Digital Voice with change over to FTTP


[re: pyarwood] [link to this post] 		 
In reply to a post by pyarwood:
So why did they kill off the budget mobile division and kill off the phone division

I was talking about home broadband where Plusnet consistently undercuts BT (retail) prices.

In reply to a post by pyarwood:
They have not invested in it to supply IPv6 to plusnet as they do their own customers.

Budget end of the market, as I said.

Oliver.
Standard User pyarwood
(regular) Tue 03-Sep-24 10:44:11
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Re: Digital Voice with change over to FTTP


[re: MHC] [link to this post] 		 
BT wouldnt have moved ANY customers from a BT contract to an PN contract as they are traded as separate companies unlike BT and EE.
I can imagine BT recommending a PN if the out of contract user says they dont want EE but would not transfers the existing contract to PN.


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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Tue 03-Sep-24 10:46:31
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Re: Digital Voice with change over to FTTP


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More rubbish being spouted.

PlusNet are NOT a separate company, they are part of BT plc the same as EE.


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Standard User candlerb
(knowledge is power) Tue 03-Sep-24 12:25:52
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> The slowest speed with FTTP is 150/28 I believe

40/10 is available on Openreach FTTP. There used to be 40/2 as well, but it was withdrawn.

According to Equinox pricing, the higher speed bands are slightly *cheaper*:
https://www.openreach.com/content/dam/openreach/open...

I don't know why that's allowed, given that 40/10 is regulated by OFCOM.
Standard User TinyMongomery
(legend) Tue 03-Sep-24 13:12:01
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In reference to www.cable.co.uk/broadband/providers/reviews/plusnet/:
Plusnet was bought by BT in 2007, but it operates as a separate business, so its broadband deals are often quite different from those of its parent company.


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Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Wed 04-Sep-24 00:15:17
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Re: Digital Voice with change over to FTTP


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> The slowest speed with FTTP is 150/28 I believe

40/10 is available on Openreach FTTP. There used to be 40/2 as well, but it was withdrawn.

According to Equinox pricing, the higher speed bands are slightly *cheaper*:
https://www.openreach.com/content/dam/openreach/open...

I don't know why that's allowed, given that 40/10 is regulated by OFCOM.


Looking at that, should just be doing 160,550,1.2 and 1.8 The rest are just too close in price to be worth bothering with, way too many speed tariff's there.

On your point regarding Ofcom, another interesting observation if I understand the document properly is the higher tiered products have a lower annual inflation. 


					
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				Standard User pyarwood
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					Plusnet is nothing like EE BT dont sell PLUSNET products and is run as a separate retailer to BT.



Are you saying that openreach are the same company as BT retail.
					
					
				

			
						
			

			
			

				
					

						

							
			
				Standard User pyarwood
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					Think they include the slower speeds so people can see its cheaper to get a faster speed.
					
					
				

			
						
			

			
			

				
					

						

							
			
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In reply to a post by pyarwood:
Plusnet is nothing like EE BT dont sell PLUSNET products and is run as a separate retailer to BT.



Are you saying that openreach are the same company as BT retail.


Here is the BT Group annual report:

https://www.bt.com/bt-plc/assets/documents/investors...



On page 15:


Trusted relationships across our EE, BT

and Plusnet brands help us understand

customers’ current and future needs and

create new products to meet them.


Pages 226 to 230 give the details of "related undertakings", i.e. companies owned within the group.



On page 229:



British Telecommunications plc 100% ordinary

EE (Group) Limited 100% ordinary



On page 230:



Plusnet plc 100% ordinary

Openreach Limited 100% ordinary



Therefore, of course you're right that Openreach and BT Retail are not the same company; and that applies equally to Plusnet and EE. But they are all peer companies and brands under BT Group. It's a marketing decision for each retail unit whether or not they sell each other's products.
					
					
				

			
						
			

			
			

					
		

	

	
	

		

			
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