You might be able to do it yourself and save some cash by Removing the Ring Wire

In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:

Removing the Ring Wire

"The i-plate is not compatible with the new (2007) NTE5 faceplates marked Openreach which already have a bell wire choke installed."

That's an interesting note from the Kitz page - I didn't know that

In reply to a post by 4M2:

That's an interesting note from the Kitz page - I didn't know that

Not compatible is a bit strong, they just won't do anything useful !

In reply to a post by jchamier:

Not compatible is a bit strong, they just won't do anything useful !

I'm not sure it isn't true. I seem to remember this being discussed soon after the new NTE5A came out, and there being something about the shape of the back of the NTE5A to accommodate the choke making the two not fit together.

It might be my imagination of course.

Edited by RobertoS (Mon 24-Sep-12 22:44:50)

In reply to a post by jchamier:

In reply to a post by 4M2:

That's an interesting note from the Kitz page - I didn't know that

Not compatible is a bit strong, they just won't do anything useful !

Sure, but presumably the choke on the faceplate fitted to an "Openreach" marked NTE5 will stop the negative effects of the bell wire on the adsl signal in a similar way that an i-plate does with earlier versions of NTE5 faceplates.

Personally I still prefer to remove the bell wire from an extension and use a filtered faceplate, but I did find Kitz's mention of a choke fitted to new faceplates to be interesting http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/images/phone/NTE5_facepla... - choke marked with a red circle.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

...I seem to remember this being discussed soon after the new NTE5A came out, and there being something about the shape of the back of the NTE5A to accommodate the choke making the two not fit together.

The new NTE5A does fit onto an older NTE5 - I've just checked. Since the terminals on a new NTE5A are reduced to three and the position of the choke is where the other three terminals are on an older NTE5A

In reply to a post by 4M2:

Personally I still prefer to remove the bell wire from an extension and use a filtered faceplate, but I did find Kitz's mention of a choke fitted to new faceplates to be interesting http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/images/phone/NTE5_facepla... - choke marked with a red circle.

Yes, I've seen at least two installed. Helpful OR engineers had fit them in both cases when fixing other PSTN faults.

That's not the question Of course it fits an NTE5.

The question is does it still fit if an iPlate is there.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

That's not the question Of course it fits an NTE5.

The question is does it still fit if an iPlate is there.

Ah! Good point, I don't have an i-plate to check unfortunately

A quick update..

The cabling guy was here about 3 hours sorting out all the internal wiring (only cost £80, I was happy with that).

Broadband originally connected at 4000Kbps but had a few stability issues, the SNR margin was low at 3Db.

A couple of days later it seems to have settled at the following -


Line state: Connected
Connection time:1 day, 21:30:20
Downstream:3,456 Kbps
Upstream: 448 Kbps
VPI/VCI:0/38
Type:PPPoA
Modulation: G.992.1 Annex A
Latency type: Fast
Noise margin (Down/Up): 6.1 dB / 16.0 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up): 52.0 dB / 30.5 dB
Output power (Down/Up): 19.2 dBm / 12.1 dBm
FEC Events (Down/Up): 0 / 22
CRC Events (Down/Up): 7332 / 235
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): 0
HEC Errors (Down/Up): 7874 / 130
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 0 / 0

I'm hoping the line will now stay stable and my IP Profile will go up to 3Mb (it's currently stuck at 2Mb).