not until they know it would work.

and they have been quiet about it, you are the only one making an issue of it.

we are still waiting to hear what was broken with 77.43 profiles.

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If I understand him right BT are just allowing higher profiles to be set by the system for monitoring purposes, then they use that to see % of lines syncing high enough to get a new 10% figure that allows them to advertise higher speeds.

It doesn't work like that. IP Profile is a result of sync speed, not the determinant.

After that its possible a rollout would then occur of a new product which I suspect would replace the current 76mbit product. (which some advertise as 80mbit, like I noticed now we have isps advertising adsl2+ again as 24mbit).

Just ISPs who haven't twigged they shouldn't be advertising such figures as 24Mbps on ADSL2+.

There is only 2 logical reasons why we would be seeing these profiles, either its a fault or BT are considering a new higher speed product.

An IP Profile above 77.5 requires a sync above 80Mbps. So we need someone with such an IP Profile, (we still haven't seen any linked to in this thread), to have an unlocked modem and give us the stats.

Which is way off the topic. Nobody, including BatBoy, seems to know what was or is broken in the BRAS Profile system.

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Which is way off the topic. Nobody, including BatBoy, seems to know what was or is broken in the BRAS Profile system.

The BRAS profile system has been reporting a Max Achievable Speed of zero for about a month, and also does not move.

Merry Christmas

Yes, we all know that but what's it got to do with reported 80+ Meg IP profiles and that they fix it? It's a non sequitur!

This thread has lost its way and doesn't know where to find it.

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

Which is way off the topic. Nobody, including BatBoy, seems to know what was or is broken in the BRAS Profile system.

The BRAS profile system has been reporting a Max Achievable Speed of zero for about a month, and also does not move.

Merry Christmas

Merry Chrismas to you too

You appear to be in an impregnable, impenetrable and unbreakable loop. I shall re-iterate. (Heh!)

1) The BRAS Profile system still reports a maximum attainable of zero. So if anything is fixed, it certainly isn't that.

2) You say in your opening post that they have fixed the still unspecified break by fixing the BRAS Profile system ("them") to above 80Mbps. Later you state that the IP Profile and the BRAS profile are different things. It therefore seems the 80Mbps does not refer to the IP Profile, leaving the questions open as to what it does apply to, and what it has fixed.

I'm baffled by all this. The only break you tell us about has not been fixed, and the 80Mbps seems to be nothing to do with anything. Just a random statement about something that has not been defined, never mind demonstrated or verified by a link to an example.

RobertoS with all due respect ip profiles work how its been told to work. Just because it works one way one day it doesnt mean it has to work that way forever.

Its no use saying it doesnt work like that without giving an alternative explanation.

Remember I did state earlier I am curious if those with higher profiles had syncs above 80000.

Merry Christmas.

Edited by Chrysalis (Tue 25-Dec-12 00:29:22)

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

RobertoS with all due respect ip profiles work how its been told to work. Just because it works one way one day it doesnt mean it has to work that way forever.

ROFL!

(Sorry, but with that being a reply to my statement "IP Profile is a result of sync speed, not the determinant", that is the only possible answer).

IP Profiles are a function of sync speeds, not an independent variable in their own right.

As they account for some of the protocol overheads of the transmission they must be < 100% of sync.

I am still hearing for your reasoning as to why its happened or maybe you are as silly as batboy and think they setting profiles above the product spec to fix a invisible problem?

My original reasoning was either a fault or that these people were possibly syncing above 80mbit and having higher profiles set, probably in preparation for BT allowing higher speeds.

IP profiles are set by a script, that script can be changed at any time, whilst you seem to think its something that is impossible to change. So its certianly not impossible for a script to even set it higher than a sync speed.

Actually my current profile is higher than my sync.

The VDSL spec doesnt even require IP profiles its something unique to how BTw have designed their network, once you understand this then you realise they are likely a script added on top of the protocol and then obviously that script could be adjusted.

I am not saying this has happened but I am at least open to saying its possible.