What?

Please stop assuming because you got it wrong again. In fact I feel you are insulting me so please go away.

What is wrong with you? Don't you want to be helped? It's like drawing teeth with you!

I just asked you a few simple Qs. We don't know about your situation other than those facts you select to tell us; we may need other facts that may seem obvious to you.

What, in fact, did I get wrong?

In reply to a post by akawtu:

when they are providing others a reduced price of £13.75 for the exact same package!

Where are BT offering Unlimited BB for £13.75 pm?

That's the price for the 10GB usage package. Unlimited package is £26 pm; slightly less than you are paying currently.

BT Retail non-business do not do static IPS. Only their business packages.

In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:

In reply to a post by akawtu:

when they are providing others a reduced price of £13.75 for the exact same package!

Where are BT offering Unlimited BB for £13.75 pm?

That's the price for the 10GB usage package. Unlimited package is £26 pm; slightly less than you are paying currently.

I already said above that BT offered to give me my current unlimited broadband package for £13.75 per month..

When I called BT to get the MAC code I was offered the reduced price to get me to stay with them.

Just for you here is the offers I received:

1] I call BT and get through to the people who handle cancellations.
2] Ask the BT person why my broadband costs £29.40 when I can get the same package much cheaper elsewhere.
3] BT person talks about why and offers my current package for £18.x (don't remember the exact amount)
4] I politely decline because EE is £2.50 a month or £5 if I want the anytime calls.
5] Sometime later I once again call BT and get through to the people who handle cancellations.
6] Explain to BT person I'm calling after talking to EE and they need the MAC code so I can move over to EE.
7] BT person is nice enough about the MAC code request and we talk for a while about the EE offer and then he offers the same unlimited broadband package for £13.75 per month and £10.75 for the line rental if I pay it up front.
8] I politely decline again because EE is still a lot cheaper and he goes away for a short time and comes back with my MAC code.

Did I really have to spell it out like that for you???

Right now I don't think I know enough to rule out any suppliers.

I've monitored the noise margin and it's probably more like just over a 1 dB drop because of the electrical usage. I'll list the items in use near the Home Hub 3:

Panasonic 40" Plasma centre of the wall and underneath is a glass stand with two shelves. The BT master socket is near the corner to the left of the TV and a Sky TV cable is coming in just above the master socket and they were both installed at the same time a few years ago.

On the top glass shelf from left to right is:

Home Hub 3
Wii U stood vertically
2 x NAS (2 x 12v PSUs)
Wii U Gamepad charger with Gamepad sitting in the charger
5GHz router (12v PSU)
2.4Ghz router used exclusively for providing internet upstairs (12v PSU)

On the second shelf the Sky HD box is on the left and on the right is a low power computer with a 12v PSU. On a table nearby is an Xbox 360 (175W PSU) and it's often in use but it's playing up hence why it isn't on the second shelf where it usually is.

I used to also have a 4 battery charger on the glass shelf which is quite beefy but I've moved it away.

I have a 6 way adapter and a 10 way adapter. The routers and NAS PSUs are plugged into the 6 way and everything else is plugged into the 10 way.

A Panasonic cordless phone is wall mounted but it's on the other wall to the left of the master socket well away from the TV and other appliances.

All the plugs and cables etc are labelled and as best I could they are tidy and all PSUs plugs are to the right away from the Home Hub 3 and it's RJ11 cable.

The static IP is for the PC under the TV.

I would prefer to go for an LLU supplier and a WBC supplier which I decided from something you wrote somewhere on here so if BT goes down I might still have internet using the LLU supplier and vice versa.

Having two lines is a no brainer considering how little it'll cost once I pay for the new line installation. For example I could go for EE's £2.50 unlimited broadband on the new line. We aren't concerned about land line calls so the £2.50 package is ideal for upstairs.

There has been a lot of fibre chatter online about my exchange so it's well known that only some post codes have access to it and the rest of us won't be getting it anytime soon. Our exchange covers a very big area and it's like they decided to go north only so every other direction isn't getting it. I have no idea why but I have accepted I won't be getting it.

Point 3 is a good one. Low latency should be a requirement. I hadn't thought about usage requirements but now I remember playing online poker was difficult a while back due to high latency which might coincide with the increased noise margin. Latency has been fine for a while though.

Besides the poker there is web browsing and the usual like Netflix and Sky Go etc but I don't mind paying for unlimited so I don't have to monitor the usage. The kids line will have a lot more downloading so until it is installed so will the downstairs line.

I do appreciate your help with this.

In reply to a post by akawtu:

when they are providing others a reduced price of £13.75 for the exact same package!

Yes, I realise that BT had offered you a special reduced retention deal for your current package.

However, I was asking where they had offered others, not you, Unlimited BB for £13.75 pm?

That is a brilliant description. But it is now after eating time and red wine , so too much to take in and think about.

I can see why you have arranged things like that, any normal person would do. But in your case it might need benefit from a bit of adjustment so long as an aesthetically acceptable arrangement can be achieved.

I'd better not say any more as the wine might talk instead of sensible analysis. I'll be around here for a while about stuff I can handle in my sleep, but yours needs a clear head. Back tomorrow some time.

Edited by RobertoS (Sat 05-Jan-13 21:49:42)

Online poker doesn't particularly need low latency. It runs fine on Interleaved. I play it all the time. Low latency and Fast Path is needed more for those highly graphical, fast response, combat games.

You're right. I should have said stable latency is a requirement..

Thanks for correcting me!