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Standard User ukhardy07
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 21-Feb-13 02:07:21
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In reply to a post by bluenapalm:
For customers on all other broadband products: to protect the performance of the network and to ensure the best experience for all users of the service, at peak times we may manage the speed of non-time critical applications such as Peer-to-Peer (P2P)."

There is still traffic management on the package that ARE NOT totally unlimited.

That is what this quote refers to... On the totally unlimited infinity there are no restrictions what so ever. This is T&C that are for another package (one that isn't totally unlimited) so isn't relevant.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 21-Feb-13 08:45:31
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New advertising rules mean it's hard to get away with traffic management / overprediction of speeds now.
Are you sure that doesn't refer to connection, (or in BT Wholesale's case IP Profile), speeds, rather than throughput?
This means that everything goes at the full speed. There is no throttling, no slowing down, no traffic management etc.
In similar vein, I agree it means no throttling, but I doubt if it means 24/7 "full wack" is guaranteed.
Fibre has also meant that backhaul has been increased and now networks can cope being totally unlimited without any hiccups.
Backhaul has been fibre for donkey's years. The advent of FTTx makes hiccuping more likely, not less.

Whilst I agree with your and everyone else's recommendation to the OP to "go for it", although I prefer my own ISP, I feel your enthusiasm has slightly overridden your clarity of view tongue.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 22-Feb-13 11:19:50
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Thanks again for all the detailed help folks. I've taken the plunge & should get things installed on the 15th March. Projected line speed of about 58Mb so fingers crossed! Also, this is copied from the T's & C's I've just been sent, so as of feb '13 it should be accurate;

Section 1: Traffic management in relation to your broadband product (not including during busy times and places to manage network congestion. See section 2)
Products introduced from 1 February 2013

Use and availability of services, content, application and protocols on this product
Broadband product name Broadband Unlimited Broadband Unlimited Broadband extra BT Infinity 1 Unlimited BT Infinity 1 Unlimited BT Infinity 2
Are any services, content, applications or protocols always blocked on this product?** No
If so, what? n/a
Are any services, content, applications or protocols always slowed down? No
If so, what? n/a
Are any services, content, applications or protocols always prioritised? No
If so, what? n/a
Are any managed services delivered on this product? If so, what is the impact? Yes
If so, what?
What impact? BT Vision traffic is managed over the network to ensure that on demand films are delivered to customers successfully. Additional bandwidth is provided to support this service.
Data caps and download limits
Broadband product name Broadband Unlimited Broadband Unlimited Broadband extra BT Infinity 1 Unlimited BT Infinity 1 Unlimited BT Infinity 2
What are the download/upload limits or data usage caps on this product? 10GB Unlimited Unlimited 40GB Unlimited Unlimited
Is traffic management used to manage compliance with data caps and download limits? No
Under what circumstances? n/a
Level of speed reduction? n/a
Duration of speed reduction? n/a
Is traffic management used in relation to heavy users? No
Level of speed reduction? n/a
Duration of speed reduction? n/a
**This excludes any service, content, application or protocol that an ISP is required to block by UK law and child abuse images as informed by the list provided by the Internet Watch Foundation.

To me that all but guarantees no throttling or management so we'll see wink


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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 22-Feb-13 12:11:19
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To me that all but guarantees no throttling or management so we'll see wink
Does it? It all depends on Section 2, which you have not enclosed:
(not including during busy times and places to manage network congestion. See section 2)


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Standard User jchamier
(knowledge is power) Fri 22-Feb-13 13:29:45
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In reply to a post by phookoo:
To me that all but guarantees no throttling or management so we'll see wink
Does it? It all depends on Section 2, which you have not enclosed:
(not including during busy times and places to manage network congestion. See section 2)


Don't all ISPs (even Sky) have a clause about protecting their network?

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 22-Feb-13 13:56:00
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They may very well do.

However, I was questioning the OP's contention of a guarantee when he has only considered half of the relevant info.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 23-Feb-13 09:05:54
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to be honest never noticed the speed management just slight local contention.
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