In reply to a post by mlmclaren:

That maybe so, but I think the customer might want something a bit more high quality and LEGAL...

Typical fora know-all - There is NOTHING illegal about watching streams. You are downloading nothing and it's the folks UPLOADING their streams that are breaking the law. been covered here many many times. You can subscribe a fortune to every supplier and STILL not have access to the 15 3.00pm UK football matches I can see on one site alone.

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

It is legal.

Us in agreement !! - Whatever next lol.

OK, My Bad but still stand by my Quality statement

Are you planning to watch BT Sport via a Sky Box or Internet?

I came the other way, moving to Plusnet from BT because of (1) price hikes needed to pay for BT TV ventures which I don't want and (2) deteriorating service with slower speeds and frequent outages culminating in two weeks' downtime in February. BB was returned with 50% upload speed, the Indian operators saying for months that nothing could be done until I complained to the CEO's office and reached higher level.

Plusnet's takeover was a disaster salvaged only by this website and its Plusnet rep patrols. Since then I have encountered half-hour waits for phone support, not to mention the well-published outages caused by (I understand) system faults. If I renew next year it will only be at half-price rates to reflect this 50% service.

Otherwise I am pleased with PN while it works, my BB is 50% faster than it was with BT and the PN forum seems to offer much better support than does BT Community. Despite the foregoing, if I were in your shoes I would definitely stay where I am, there's no contest. As for the sport, I see PN offering a BT Sport package.

Very very watchable for free.

I recently left BT for Plusnet, mainly because of price.
Especially as Plusnet 40/20 just suited me and BT didn't have an equivalent. £100 or so cashback and an introductory offer from Plusnet helped.

I've found Plusnet marginally better, but personally didn't really have any problems with BT (except BT Cloud which is [or was] rubbish).
If I'd been interested in sport I might have stayed with BT.

In reply to a post by flippery:

Plusnet appear to be the BT arm for LLU competitors.
On Market 1 Plusnet are more expensive than BT.

Yes, but WHY are they so expensive on Market 1? We hear they cannot offer lower prices due to BTW cost, but others can resell line rental for £6. many offer phone and broadband contract free with no call connection fee, per second billing and calls at 1p. Seems it's screwing folks for line rental to offer loss-leading Broadband, with the snare of a long tie-in thrown in free.

Edited by professor973 (Sat 22-Nov-14 16:54:23)

Anyone selling line rental for £6 a month including VAT is running it as a loss leader

Retailers offer the options and people make their minds up, called competition

Pulse 8 Line rental is £13 unless broadband is taken, Broadband is not cheap at £19 ( similar to BT and Plusnet ) Priced to obtain both
On market 1 there is little competitition BT is not going to compete against itself with Plusnet
BT only offer 1 pricing for all and could not compete with likes of Sky, TalkTalk on LLU.
BT I have never had a problem with.However, new pricing makes them uneconomic for a low Talk, Broadband and non Sport user.