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Standard User troublegum
(regular) Thu 05-Jan-17 18:42:40
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[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
Another vote for the Billion 8800NL. And i can confirm it works fine with BT TV (with a small bit of tweaking).
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 05-Jan-17 20:14:27
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[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by RobertoS:
In reply to a post by 23Prince:
I'm looking at mine now as it's downloading away smile It might only have 100mbps ports but on 80/20 is more needed? I don't transfer around home so I don't think so. It can be a pain to set up IPv6 on ( I failed at that) but my ISP does not do that yet so no probs here.
Took me three hours or so on 14 Dec 2016 to get an 8800NL R2 working on AAISP IPv6/IPv4 dualstack. In modem/router mode. Rock solid ever since.

One ethernet port is gigabit. So could feed a gigabit switch if not using it as the WAN port.


I feel silly, I was not aware one was GB, I just plugged it in to be honest and never gave it a second thought!

I recall a friend giving up when he tried it on AAISP - but it's great to hear someone did it smile
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 05-Jan-17 20:24:49
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See two BQMs in my sig smile.

Edit. The 4am'ish spike I think is them trying to test the line, expecting their ZyXel on my end. Maybe I should tell them.

The near-midday one is me doing a router reboot just to see if by any chance that came up with a DLM improvement on my long-standing banding.

Kindness isn't going to cure the world of all its awfulness but it's a good place to begin. Daisy Ridley.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 54999/14466Kbps @ 600m. BQMs - IPv4 & IPv6

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Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Thu 05-Jan-17 20:36:01
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[re: PaulKirby] [link to this post]
 
It still reboots and I'm on another hub now...
FTTC BT Infinity 1, 55Mbps.

Thanks everyone for all your suggestions this has helped me out a tonne.
I will have a good look at all the various models and go from there.
Just going to check out the 14 day reboot cycle see if there's anyway to stop it first. The Billion models seem to be the best recommended.

Edited by ukhardy07 (Thu 05-Jan-17 20:36:27)

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 05-Jan-17 22:35:38
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[re: ukhardy07] [link to this post]
 
Hi

The Draytek 2860N works for certain, its not cheap though.

Using this with my BT TV without any problems on the multicast channels.

Just make sure both IGMP Proxy & Snooping are ticked and the latest firmware is used.
Standard User PaulKirby
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 06-Jan-17 00:48:32
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[re: ukhardy07] [link to this post]
 
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It still reboots and I'm on another hub now...
FTTC BT Infinity 1, 55Mbps.

Thanks everyone for all your suggestions this has helped me out a tonne.
I will have a good look at all the various models and go from there.
Just going to check out the 14 day reboot cycle see if there's anyway to stop it first. The Billion models seem to be the best recommended.

Well I will try my best from rebooting my Smart Hub and will see if mine reboots after the 14 days, maybe mine will be fine due to in my case it is the ONT does the connecting and is always connected for FVA and the Smart Hub connects over the WAN Port, so maybe the Smart Hub won't reboot after the 14 days for FTTP?

Paul

BTBroadband - Infinity 4 - 310Mbps (down), 31Mbps (up)
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Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Fri 06-Jan-17 01:10:29
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[re: PaulKirby] [link to this post]
 
Yes also the FTTH variant is different as well. It's not a big deal really as I've never actually noticed it reboot after 14 days, I have noticed firmware updates though. BT really need to stop pushing out firmware updates at 8:30PM which last 20 minutes, and right now I get one every few weeks!

I've had no performance issues with the Smarthub in fact it's probably my favourite ISP supplied router, but I do hate how it can just update itself at a whim and BT don't even let us know what the updates do.

The updates are more frustrating than the 14 day rebooting, I know this will settle down soon as it's a new device still.

My real issue with the Billion is the wireless, I am on a top floor apartment now and 2.4Ghz maxes out around 5Mbps during every evening. I actually had turned off 2.4Ghz for around 3 months as it was that useless... There are times it just grinds to a total standstill.

I note the AC version somebody provided which would be a good solution but I'm struggling to justify over £100.

For reference here is my WiFi environment:

https://s29.postimg.org/4muucspnb/IMG_0041.jpg

I have around 20 devices connected, only one is wired the rest are 5Ghz. The routers hidden inside a built in wardrobe so probably not the best location, but the master socket is here and the only socket nearby is in the wardrobe... I also mean to change this at some point.

Thanks to the person who linked me to the BT forum as I can see a full list of supported routers on there!

I am 99% certain I will change the router, probably at next payday smile
Standard User PaulKirby
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 06-Jan-17 15:54:36
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Well I think the only thing that might be different between the FTTC and FTTP versions of the Smart Hub is the red WAN Label and that's it, I am also certain that the firmware is exactly the same as well.

Basically it just doesn't make any sense in BT creating completely 2 different hubs when it can support ADSLx / Infinity 1, 2, 3 and 4.

Yeah I am also wondering if it is actually doing the 14 day reboot, it might in fact just be rebooting after a firmware update, due to there has been a few of them, I know my one has had 2 or 3 so far.

As for Wi-Fi, I think I am lucky here due to only 5 to 7 show up and most of them are weak signals when in doors, outside I pick up more, so I am glad we have very thick outer walls LOL.

I was looking at those Billion devices as well, but I would need a version that has about 1Gb WAN port for our FTTP connection.

I might stay with what I have so far and I could always try my FRITZ!Box 3390 later on, but I don't think it would be up to the job.

Paul

BTBroadband - Infinity 4 - 310Mbps (down), 31Mbps (up)
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Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Thu 12-Jan-17 01:29:25
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Went for a netgear D6400 after seeing my friend has 300 days uptime on theirs.

Will let you all know how I get on. I've always been a netgear fanboy.

I also didn't want a box with external antennas.
Standard User jaydub
(experienced) Thu 12-Jan-17 10:27:46
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Will be interested to hear how you get on.

Looking to get a second VDSL modem router to act as backup to or replacement for my cheap 2nd hand ZyXel VMG8924 and the 6400 looks to be a cost effective option.

TP-Link routers don't give enough GUI stats; the ASUS VDSL routers don't seem to be recommended and Billion AC routers a significant price hike up from the 6400.

The absence of external antennas and a small desk footprint make it comparatively wife friendly.as well. wink
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