In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

So, you are complaining about the complimentary drinks that came free with the service ?

that is a really bad an incorrect take.

there's no extra cost to use DV as it uses the hub you use for the broadband. there is extra cost for other VoIP providers because you'd typically have to buy your own hardware (at minimum an ATA or at most a lot of money to buy enough replacement digital/VoIP phones).

There's no complaining about complimentary drinks because there was nothing extra provided to use the service, it's all pre-existing with the internet router.

In reply to a post by NBK:

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

So, you are complaining about the complimentary drinks that came free with the service ?

that is a really bad an incorrect take.

Maybe he was talking about

In reply to a post by NBK:

one thing I'll say for BT is they sent DV adapters for free

I was moaning about the OP complaint about having to use the router the CP supply if the OP’s parents wish to use the DV service that their CP provide … he was given a good work around, don’t use the supplied router, port the number to a VOIP service, but he seemed to baulk at additional costs …

There’s no pleasing some folk it would seem Dect.

I don’t find it surprising that CP’s are wriggling to keep customers, they are feeling the pinch. I wonder how many years it’ll take for the BT group to recoup its costs as it ambles towards full fibre ? Let’s not forget all the Johnny Come Lately’s AltNets snapping at their heels.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

I was moaning about the OP complaint about having to use the router the CP supply if the OP’s parents wish to use the DV service that their CP provide … he was given a good work around, don’t use the supplied router, port the number to a VOIP service, but he seemed to baulk at additional costs …

There’s no pleasing some folk it would seem Dect.

I don’t find it surprising that CP’s are wriggling to keep customers, they are feeling the pinch. I wonder how many years it’ll take for the BT group to recoup its costs as it ambles towards full fibre ? Let’s not forget all the Johnny Come Lately’s AltNets snapping at their heels.

I mean....yes I baulk at the additional costs of it. My parents, the ones who pay for their service, are elderly pensioners. Maybe when you're that old you'd understand?

In reply to a post by NBK:

I mean....yes I baulk at the additional costs of it. My parents, the ones who pay for their service, are elderly pensioners. Maybe when you're that old you'd understand?

I maybe their age I couldn't possibly say

I personally would have ported the number to a cheap VOIP provider and used my own router rather than the SH2 if I thought its was as bad as you\they do.

Maybe some kind son of mine would have bought me an ATA for a present if I couldn't have afforded it

In reply to a post by NBK:

Extra cost limits choice where with BT equipment (including DV adapters) was free, with a VoIP provider you typically have to pay out for equipment :|

The inbuilt ATA is frequently locked to the suppliers VoIP service, if it wasn't, then any hosted VoIP provider could be used without the need to buy any additional hardware.

The installation of FTTP is a parallel service to FTTC and remains live until you terminate the service. During this period you can port the line number to a hosted provider which will automatically cease the original broadband service.

Where the new routers inbuilt ATA can't be configured to use another VoIP provider's service, then as an absolute minimum you need only to purchase an inexpensive standalone ATA. You just do the sums to see if it is financially advantageous to split the broadband and voice service between two entities.

Of course if you just pick up the phone and ask your existing ISP to upgrade you to FTTP, then more fool you without doing your homework first.

In reply to a post by trolleybus:

In reply to a post by NBK:

Extra cost limits choice where with BT equipment (including DV adapters) was free, with a VoIP provider you typically have to pay out for equipment :|

Of course if you just pick up the phone and ask your existing ISP to upgrade you to FTTP, then more fool you without doing your homework first.

Not more fool me at all since, as stated in other posts, I didn't order the renewal (and everybody was unaware it would be switched to FTTP/DV as was just expecting renewal on the FTTC).

I may be older than you think. I may well have a great deal of experience dealing with all manner of folk.

This digital voice thing sound a lawful thing, my next door neighbour have it on their Sky router, and they use the home phone a fair bit, so if the power goes down they have no home phone, who ever thought of this idea without some sort of battery back up system need sacking.

I have been using VoIP for years, so I am used to it, a lot of people are not and to be honest, I use my home phone once in a blue moon these days, the only reason I keep the VoIP is that I have money on it, I topped it up a few years ago with a tenner and also my brother call me on it.

I saw BT temporarily pulled the plug on further digital voice rollouts until the power issue is resolved.

https://newsroom.bt.com/were-pausing-our-digital-voi...