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(deleted) Tue 27-Apr-10 11:58:07
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VDSL Line Bonding Gateways?


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Hi all,

I am investigating the possibility of obtaining a VDSL2 gateway/router, that has Line Bondiong capabilities (ability to bond 2 pairs and increase bandwidth by 30-40%).

Our network here in Gibraltar is running on a short haul copper infrastructure not fibre, in case you're wondering why the need to bond lines.

I cannot find a gateway vendor within EU that does this, however there is a market for line bonding in the US, but i've been told we cannot be sold gateways made for the US market here in the EU.

Anyone have any comments or ideas/advice on the matter.

Many thanks

Dwayne
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(deleted) Tue 27-Apr-10 13:47:35
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Re: VDSL Line Bonding Gateways?


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Does this have to be a VDSL bonding device?

Doesn't Gibtel supply a modem with each line which could be used with an Ethernet device like a Firebrick?
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(deleted) Tue 27-Apr-10 14:09:45
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Thanks for your reply.

Unfortunately, yes we do need it to be a VDSL2 Bonding capable CPE. The problem is that such devices are not available (or so it seems) to the EU market.

Hopefully someone can point something out.

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(deleted) Mon 10-May-10 03:06:22
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Re: VDSL Line Bonding Gateways?


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two VDSL2+ modems and a firebrick or mikrotik would do the job.
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Standard User lockyatlrg
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 22-Oct-11 10:03:50
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I would go for the 2 modems plugged into a FireBrick FB2700 and do the line binding that way.

I don't think there is a product out that has multi dsl inputs and line bonds.

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ROUTER:-Netgear WNDR37AV
JDSU Stats
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Attenuation: 9.6 SNR: 11.4
Line Length 300meters
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(deleted) Sat 22-Oct-11 10:27:00
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In reply to a post by lockyatlrg:
I would go for the 2 modems plugged into a FireBrick FB2700 and do the line binding that way.
You're joking? £750.00
Standard User lockyatlrg
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 22-Oct-11 11:54:10
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They are not 750 quid, and who said line bonding is cheap anyway?

There is no market for such products and you pay through your teeth for them.

If you can find a cheaper solution by all means please enlighten us...

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ROUTER:-Netgear WNDR37AV
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Attenuation: 9.6 SNR: 11.4
Line Length 300meters
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(deleted) Sat 22-Oct-11 12:02:56
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In reply to a post by lockyatlrg:
They are not 750 quid, and who said line bonding is cheap anyway?

There is no market for such products and you pay through your teeth for them.

If you can find a cheaper solution by all means please enlighten us...
Well they are according to the price list. I don't know where you're getting your info from but how much do you think they are?

The Comtrend Nexuslink 5631 is £150
Standard User lockyatlrg
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 22-Oct-11 12:08:19
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That is an ADSL bonding router.

The op is asking for a VDSL2 bonding router.

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Line Length 300meters
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sat 22-Oct-11 12:15:26
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£600 from AAISP.

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£600 from AAISP.
Oh well, that's a lot cheaper. It's still too expensive though, an ALIX 2-2 is only £100 which is less than the difference between the Firebrick list price and the AAISP price.

edit - sorry, you need the "fully loaded" Firebrick, which is £750 as I said
http://www.firebrick.co.uk/products_2700.php

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(deleted) Sat 22-Oct-11 12:32:21
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In reply to a post by lockyatlrg:
That is an ADSL bonding router.

The op is asking for a VDSL2 bonding router.
The firebrick doesn't do line bonding on it's own - you need another one at the ISP end.
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(deleted) Mon 11-Jun-12 01:18:46
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In reply to a post by BatBoy:
The firebrick doesn't do line bonding on it's own - you need another one at the ISP end.



Hi BatBoy,

I'm just looking at how to bond 2 VDSL2 lines here in New Zealand. From your comment above am I right to think that if you have 2 VDSL2 lines with separate routers and then use a Firebrick to bond them - that you also need the ISP to have a Firebrick on their end also??

Just trying to figure out how it works. I just spoke to an ISP here and they didn't mention anything about needing the connection on their end... (they might not know).

Regan
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(deleted) Mon 11-Jun-12 06:45:37
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I use a MikroTik RB751G-2HnD for bonding my fiber purchased from LinITX.

Your ISP needs to configure the bonding at their end too.

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Tuff : Which ISP is hosting the device for you or providing the bond?
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Some people use Goscomb Technologies e.g. http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/t/4142074-re-...
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