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PaulSmith
(newbie) Mon 01-Jul-13 10:16:19

BT Infinity with Apple Time Capsule

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Hello all,

I've had BT Infinity for a couple of years, generally had no problems until a few weeks ago when the connection seemed to be up and down a lot.

I've now switched from:

Open Reach white modem -> BT Infinity for Business Router -> Apple Time Capsule (Bridged mode)

to

Open Reach white modem -> Apple Time Capsule (connecting via PPPoE).

All seems fine and I've suddenly got a much better upload speed. (+5mb from original configuration). However a friend has told me that the BT Router is used to maintain the line sync / calibration and that eventually my line will drop to below 2mb.

Is this true?

Oldjim
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 01-Jul-13 10:37:42

Re: BT Infinity with Apple Time Capsule

[re: PaulSmith] [link to this post]

No
It is rubbish

RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 01-Jul-13 11:17:28

Re: BT Infinity with Apple Time Capsule

[re: Oldjim] [link to this post]

Agreed.

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PaulSmith
(newbie) Mon 01-Jul-13 11:24:56

Re: BT Infinity with Apple Time Capsule

[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]

So I should be fine just connecting via PPPoE from my Time Capsule then? Seems all good, just would hate to have to deal with the BT Call Centres if I can avoid it.

I'll be sure to report back if indeed it does turn out to be an issue.

jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 01-Jul-13 20:00:45

Re: BT Infinity with Apple Time Capsule

[re: PaulSmith] [link to this post]

In reply to a post by PaulSmith:
So I should be fine just connecting via PPPoE from my Time Capsule then? Seems all good, just would hate to have to deal with the BT Call Centres if I can avoid it.

Yes, I used an Airport Extreme connected to the white Openreach modem for a while, but have since moved to an ASUS RT-N66U. The 5th gen Extreme (with dual band WiFi) is an extremely good router, just limited network ports and limited features.

James BT Infinity 2 19/09/2012 - Speeds 49 / 8.2 Mbps - Sync 53 / 9.5 Mbps @ 470m
_{Huawei modem -> RT-N66U -> Switch -> PC/Mac/Linux/NAS/Phone/TV - last speedtest

13 years of broadband - 1999 ntl:(512k/1M)/BTbusiness(2M)/Metronet(2M)/Bulldog(8M/16M)/BE(19M/16M)/BT FTTC(46M)}

ukhardy07
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 01-Jul-13 20:40:51

Re: BT Infinity with Apple Time Capsule

[re: PaulSmith] [link to this post]

The initial way was the 'messy' way of doing it as you get double NAT

The way it is now is much better and is perfect. Ignore the friend smile

PaulSmith
(newbie) Mon 01-Jul-13 22:41:34

Re: BT Infinity with Apple Time Capsule

[re: jchamier] [link to this post]

Seems I was misinformed. I've not noticed any problems but I was worried the line hadn't "retrained" (or whatever the correct terminology is).

Thanks for the responses chaps, much appreciated. smile

RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 01-Jul-13 23:06:07

Re: BT Infinity with Apple Time Capsule

[re: PaulSmith] [link to this post]

The line didn't "retrain" for the same reason as your friend was wrong smile

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The line sync/calibration is between the Openreach modem and the FTTC cabinet. Nothing at all to do with anything you hang on the end of the Ethernet output from the modem.

Once the line is in sync between them, the router supplies your ISP username and password and whether it is a PPPoA or PPPoE connection, and a few other parameters to do with making the connection to your ISP and beyond.

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