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Standard User jez9999
(member) Wed 31-May-17 19:53:14
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Wall-mounted Openreach modem?


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A couple of years ago now, I think, I upgraded to Zen Internet FTTC and it was a "managed install". An Openreach engineer visited and installed (and wall-mounted) this rather nice-looking modem:
http://game-point.net/misc/old-dsl-setup.jpg

Firstly, can anyone identify the model of this? Secondly, is there a way I can get hold of them? Now that managed installations are not done anymore, I hear these modems are sadly not being made which is a shame because a) they look nice and sleek and b) i like the wall-mounting. The Technicolor modem I received is no doubt technically fine but it's just designed to stand on a table or something and looks less professional.

Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 31-May-17 20:04:52
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Ebay but prices are shooting up and make sure it has a white PSU as the little black ones are reportedly unreliable. It is an HG612 3b you need but they only have a limited life and we have seen posts on this forum of them going faulty.

Tim
www.uno.net.uk & freenetname
Asus DSL-N55U and TP-Link WD9970 on 80 Meg LLU Fibre
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Current Sync: 69892/17901
Standard User jez9999
(member) Wed 31-May-17 20:07:46
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Hum. Well then do you know of any wall-mounted ones that look similarly sleek?


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Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 31-May-17 20:11:20
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I have a TP-Link TD-WD9970 which can be wall mounted but currently sitting on a desk but the antenna can't be removed maybe someone else will have a more aesthetic suggestion. I have one of the modems in the picture as a backup in case the TP-Link goes pop or for diagnostics.

Tim
www.uno.net.uk & freenetname
Asus DSL-N55U and TP-Link WD9970 on 80 Meg LLU Fibre
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...

Current Sync: 69892/17901
Standard User jez9999
(member) Wed 31-May-17 20:30:51
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Cool. Have added to my sig. smile

=== Jez ===
Internet
Zen unlimited fibre 2 | http://game-point.net/misc/speedtest-ookla-ZenFTTC-2...
Hardware
(hopefully to come):
Master socket: NTE5A with MK3 VDSL filter faceplate
DSL model: BT Openreach Huawei EchoLife HG612 3B VDSL/FTTC (unlocked)
Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 31-May-17 20:35:11
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Did you find one on ebay?

Tim
www.uno.net.uk & freenetname
Asus DSL-N55U and TP-Link WD9970 on 80 Meg LLU Fibre
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...

Current Sync: 69892/17901
Standard User jez9999
(member) Wed 31-May-17 20:41:08
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Yes. I've asked about the PSU.

=== Jez ===
Internet
Zen unlimited fibre 2 | http://game-point.net/misc/speedtest-ookla-ZenFTTC-2...
Hardware
(hopefully to come):
Master socket: NTE5A with MK3 VDSL filter faceplate
DSL model: BT Openreach Huawei EchoLife HG612 3B VDSL/FTTC (unlocked)
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 31-May-17 22:07:28
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In reply to a post by jez9999:
A couple of years ago now, I think, I upgraded to Zen Internet FTTC and it was a "managed install". An Openreach engineer visited and installed (and wall-mounted) this rather nice-looking modem:
http://game-point.net/misc/old-dsl-setup.jpg
That's an ECI Modem Type 1B I think
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 31-May-17 22:12:22
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In reply to a post by jez9999:
Hum. Well then do you know of any wall-mounted ones that look similarly sleek?


I'd take a look at the Draytek Vigor 130

standalone VDSL/ADSL modem and can be neatly wall mounted, smaller than the BT version too
Standard User jez9999
(member) Thu 01-Jun-17 01:10:52
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OK so it looks like both the ECI Modem Type 1B and the Huawei EchoLife HG612 were similar-looking modems installed by Openreach. Which was better / more reliable?

=== Jez ===
Internet
Zen unlimited fibre 2 | http://game-point.net/misc/speedtest-ookla-ZenFTTC-2...
Hardware
(hopefully to come):
Master socket: NTE5A with MK3 VDSL filter faceplate
DSL model: BT Openreach Huawei EchoLife HG612 3B VDSL/FTTC (unlocked)
Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 01-Jun-17 01:23:39
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Depends on what is in your cabinet. Huwei cab - HG612, ECI cab ECI modem.

Tim
www.uno.net.uk & freenetname
Asus DSL-N55U and TP-Link WD9970 on 80 Meg LLU Fibre
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...

Current Sync: 69892/17901
Standard User jez9999
(member) Thu 01-Jun-17 01:25:36
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It looks like the kind of thing I want but is horribly expensive at £76. Might I not be better getting hold of an ECB type 1b from eBay, which seems to do the same thing (PPPoE bridge) but is Openreach branded?

=== Jez ===
Internet
Zen unlimited fibre 2 | http://game-point.net/misc/speedtest-ookla-ZenFTTC-2...
Hardware
(hopefully to come):
Master socket: NTE5A with MK3 VDSL filter faceplate
DSL model: BT Openreach Huawei EchoLife HG612 3B VDSL/FTTC (unlocked)
Standard User jez9999
(member) Thu 01-Jun-17 01:26:38
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Well how do I know what's in my cabinet? smile

=== Jez ===
Internet
Zen unlimited fibre 2 | http://game-point.net/misc/speedtest-ookla-ZenFTTC-2...
Hardware
(hopefully to come):
Master socket: NTE5A with MK3 VDSL filter faceplate
DSL model: BT Openreach Huawei EchoLife HG612 3B VDSL/FTTC (unlocked)
Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 01-Jun-17 01:35:07
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A couple of ways if you know where your cabinet is you could take a pic and post it here and someone will tell you or google the different cabinets and see if you can work out which it is. Probably the easiest is the first option.

There have been problems with ECI cabinets because they don't support G.INP whereas the Huawei do. G.INP tends to give higher sync speeds.

Tim
www.uno.net.uk & freenetname
Asus DSL-N55U and TP-Link WD9970 on 80 Meg LLU Fibre
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...

Current Sync: 69892/17901
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 01-Jun-17 02:47:02
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Well how do I know what's in my cabinet? smile
Pictures. There is a newer one not on there, which is an All-in-One, that looks a bit like a narrower Huawei 288, with no vents in the right-hand door.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 01-Jun-17 05:17:51
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There's a method here to find your cabinet http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/cabinet-lookup.htm
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 01-Jun-17 05:31:51
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The big difference between the two is that the Huawei can be easily unlocked so you can access the line stats but the ECI cannot. Both are locked when supplied by Openreach
Standard User jez9999
(member) Thu 01-Jun-17 08:41:27
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But the Huawei do still work with ECI cabinets, right?

I mean let's say my cabinet is ECI. Which modem of the following will work best, and which worst?
- ECI Modem Type 1B
- Huawei EchoLife HG612 3B
- Draytek Vigor 130

=== Jez ===
Internet
Zen unlimited fibre 2 | http://game-point.net/misc/speedtest-ookla-ZenFTTC-2...
Hardware
(hopefully to come):
Master socket: NTE5A with MK3 VDSL filter faceplate
DSL model: BT Openreach Huawei EchoLife HG612 3B VDSL/FTTC (unlocked)
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 01-Jun-17 09:11:40
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They all work with either cabinet
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 01-Jun-17 10:23:30
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The best to buy off eBay used to be the HG612 3B as it lets you see the stats once you unlock it. Both it and the ECI are now rather long in the tooth, both in specification in terms of the connection speed they can deliver and sheer age. We are seeing a few on these forums that are playing up. I have two, that now mess up the line/DLM. They used to be great.

Mine need binning. I wouldn't trust some people not to eBay theirs in the same condition.

The Vigor 130 should be OK but not easy to get stats from. I sent mine back after three days and bought a Billion 8800NL R2 that suits me in modem/router mode. That can be used in bridge mode but I haven't tried it, even though my now unused ASUS router is sitting next to it. Wireless drawback with the Billion is that it is 2.4GHz only, but the best on that I have had.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 63679/13080Kbps @ 600m. BQMs - IPv4 & IPv6
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Thu 01-Jun-17 10:36:03
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Any with any and the results can vary.

I am connected to a Huawei cabinet, one of my ECI modems gives significantly better speeds than my two HG612s and they both slightly different in performance.

I choose to have the HG612 connected so I can access the line stats easily but could change if I wish.


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 01-Jun-17 11:32:55
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In reply to a post by MHC:
I am connected to a Huawei cabinet, one of my ECI modems gives significantly better speeds than my two HG612s and they both slightly different in performance.
Of course you can't access the line stats from the ECI modems so you can't compare them with the line stats from the Huawei.
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Thu 01-Jun-17 17:23:10
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May not be able to access stats and I did not say I could, I specifically said speeds and with the three common testers,, here, BT and speedtest.net I can see a significant improvemen.


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 01-Jun-17 17:34:23
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But you don't know if there's interleaving, fast path or G.INP. And crucially you don't know if there are errors.
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