Awontroba did but it wasn't the post Nick replied to which is why I asked.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

Nobody has mentioned one of those Nick?

yes I understand that my friend but with the problems I had from zen in giving me the Zyxel and the dated FRITZ!Box which although ok they should be giving their customers something much more solid like the billion ac1600


the new FRITZ!Box 7590 however is top notch like the billion but they will not give you that i'm afraid