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Standard User Mach2infinity
(newbie) Mon 12-Oct-20 15:04:31
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TP Link VR2100 vs VR2800


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I've just ordered a replacement VR2800 router as my old one developed a power fault following the power being tripped by a light switch (router was connected to a surge protector). However, I've just noticed the VR2100 which was released this year. You can see a comparison between the two here.

Unless I'm missing something. The key distinctions seems to be:

1) The VR2800 has 2167Mbps on 5GHz and 600Mbps on 2.4GHz whereas the VR2100 has 1733 Mbps on 5GHz and 300 Mbps on 2.4 GHz.
2) The VR2100 has support for TP Link's 'One Mesh' networking whilst the VR2800 doesn't.
3) The VR2100 has Super VDSL (VDSL2 Profile 35b) with speeds up to 350Mbps whilst the VR2800 has just the standard VDSL up to 100Mbps.
4) The VR2100 uses a MediaTek chipset whilst the VR2800 uses a Broadcom chipset (see post by Pirate Steve on the Whirlpool forum).
5) The VR2100 is cheaper (£115 on Amazon) than the VR2800 (£159)

Both utilise 4×4 MU-MIMO so the two can handle a lot of fast connections.

At the moment we only get just over 40Mbps download so we won't be be able to take advantage of the Super VDSL but it's good future proofing. I'm also keen to switch to a mesh network but the VR2800 doesn't support it (I'd rather not use an extender again).

Can anyone advise if it's best sticking to the VR2800 in the hope TP Link release a firmware to support OneMesh? Or time to switch the VR2100 and take advantage of the new features?
Standard User MCM
(knowledge is power) Mon 12-Oct-20 17:52:11
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Re: TP Link VR2100 vs VR2800


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we won't be be able to take advantage of the Super VDSL
Openreach haven't implemented Profile 35b so this particular feature won't be of any benefit.
Standard User Highland76
(committed) Mon 12-Oct-20 18:33:24
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Re: TP Link VR2100 vs VR2800


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Stick with the VR2800, it's far superior.

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Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Mon 12-Oct-20 18:54:22
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Re: TP Link VR2100 vs VR2800


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Openreach didn't go for VDSL Profile 35b because they option go for G.fast instead. But, they are now focuss on bringing FTTP rolling out as G.fast put a pause on it for any roll out G.fast pod.

VDSL remain on Profile 17b. I would advise you to stick with VR2800.

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Standard User j0hn83
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 12-Oct-20 21:00:48
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Re: TP Link VR2100 vs VR2800


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Mediatek chipset... eww. The very thought makes me shudder.
Standard User omnius
(member) Tue 13-Oct-20 00:31:22
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Re: TP Link VR2100 vs VR2800


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Using a VR2800 with firmware :0.5.0 0.9.1 v006c.0 Build 200710 Beta.50656n here after the smarthub gave up, I must say it has been the most stable router ive ever had and is handling 8 wired and 17 wireless devices (4 of these are ip cameras and loads of echo's and smart plugs) over both the main and guest wifi with no issues ive seen what so ever.

If the only issue you have had is with a power brick after a power surge and you dont need wifi 6 yet then get another 2800.

If you want mesh mind ive seen good reviews of the tp-link deco M9's and did consider them but where my router is i can get a good signal all thro the house and patio
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Edited by omnius (Tue 13-Oct-20 00:47:24)

Standard User Mach2infinity
(newbie) Mon 19-Oct-20 13:53:05
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Standard User Mach2infinity
(newbie) Mon 19-Oct-20 14:04:32
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Re: TP Link VR2100 vs VR2800


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Thanks everyone for the helpful comments. I did go with the VR2800 again in the end. Unfortunately we now have a broadband fault since last Friday, we have to wait until Wednesday 28th for an engineer visit such are things now.

I did find it confusing initially about the differences in VDSL profiles. Seeing as we're on VDSL for fibre, I thought 'Super VDSL' would be what G.Fast/FTTP works on but clearly not. I'm not too familiar with G.Fast. But what I do know is G.Fast works by boosting copper line conenctions via a small addon box at the cabinet. But has this now been stopped in favour of FTTP? How come?

I'd have thought FTTP was more expensive but seeing as Japan and South Korea who have the most advanced broadband networks, have it as standard then this is welcome if not very late in coming.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 19-Oct-20 23:50:21
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The problem with G.Fast is that it was designed to be a number of small boxes dotted around the area serviced by the PCP+FTTC cabinet, supplying its faster speed to most premises.

It needed to be several, as the range of the higher speeds is quite short. Remember how FTTC degrades with distance faster than ADSL2+? Well G.Fast does it on a far steeper graph-line than VDSL2 as it uses higher frequencies.

It looks like nobody asked the bean-counters, (accountants, in case you're not familiar with the term), before going ahead with developing it and getting a lot of kit made.

For a start, every "pod", even if shrunk to fit on a telegraph pole, needs a power supply and a fibre optic supply.

Simply not economic when Openreach is under pressure to get the whole country covered by some form of FTTC/FTTP. Best to switch to FTTP rather than make a few already 70Mbps premises able to get 150Mbps smile. Which is what they have done. From the Main Site News here a lot of FTTC-enabled areas are now getting FTTP as well. In time the FTTC will be removed, like the PSTN/xDSL copper.

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Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 20-Oct-20 04:05:56
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
In time the FTTC will be removed, like the PSTN/xDSL copper.


FTTC will not be removed for a long while yet probably still with us until 2030!

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