Hi guys.

Well it's very reassuring to hear your comments about the heat factors on the v5.

I'm also an ex TV / Computer engineer too! LOL

I was beginning to think I was the only one that actually cared about how hot these things run!

Similarly, when some of these PC games run the CPU at 100% utilisation and the temperature rises by 15C I was amazed by how blas

Edited by BlobbyBlobby (Fri 20-Oct-06 14:05:25)

http://www.dslsource.co.uk/product_details.asp?idProduct=87

Or http://www.dsldepot.co.uk/product_details.asp?idProduct=516

v5 is a superior chipset v6 was focused on cost savings, the ventilation may appear to mean it will run cooler then the v5 and the v5 had a heat flaw but this isnt the case. The reason for the ventilation on the v6 is because the chipset itself will run hotter.

I fully concur with your feelings toward devices that run unduly hot. However, as I've already pointed out, I don't think you'll be displeased with the 546v5. Do be sensible with its placement, though, keeping it away from other warm or hot airstreams and not sitting it on surfaces that are already warm.

I find it hugely ironic that, for four solid months, I pleaded with Speedtouch, dslsource.co.uk, dsl-warehouse.com and broadbandbuyer.co.uk to stock the 546v6 but they all came up with excuses not to do so. In the end, I just gave up and, largely reassured by comments from one or two specific adslguide 546v5 users, I bought a 546v5 instead. Of course, no sooner had I bought the v5, when Speedtouch and one of the other retailers immediately decided to finally make the v6 available! Well, I'm glad I selected the v5 after all, because it appears that Thomson Speedtouch have produced a bit of a lemon, in the v6.

BTW, I don't regard

Edited by deleted (Sat 21-Oct-06 01:09:11)

Well, I'm glad this thread reaffirms your choice with the v5 meditator and thanks for the info on the chipset Chrysalis.

I got another reply back from the Thompson engineer on Saturday after he tested the report I made, and he CONFIRMED that the v6 router DOES have a fault!

He could not explain why the DSL screen erroneously reported all those CRC / HEC errors and said that he's reported it to his supervisors and there should be either a hardware update or firmware update in the future.

In the meantime, I've contacted Speedtouchonline today for a refund as they don't have any v5 models in stock any more! Oops.

There's also another problem I've discovered over the weekend.

Simply turning the router on/off to resynch sometimes causes the PC to reset itself! This is possibly due to the Ethernet connection change of state? I've also seen this when manually plugging/unplugging the ethernet connector into the router. This often either cause a BSOD with a cryptic 'IRQ Less than' (or something like that) error or a reset too. The onboard Broadcom 440x is connected to that port.

Not very nice anyway if you were in the middle of editing or whatever.

I know it's not a USB socket. but surely powering down the router shouldn't cause the PC to reset?!

Trying to get a v5 replacement now. Will try DSl source later. I quite fancy replacing my model with the one here in the blue top.

http://www.dslsource.co.uk/products.asp?idprodtype=2

Edited by BlobbyBlobby (Mon 23-Oct-06 12:41:15)

your pc resetting will be unrelated to the router, some kind of ethernet issue possibly to do with it sharing an irq address. If its a pci card try moving it to a different slot.

If all those errors turn out to be a hardware fault in the router, Speedtouch and their distributors are going to be faced with an horrendous problem of having to recall all of those particular routers. Under those circumstances, my guess is that they'd quickly conclude it to be impractical and wouldn't bother. Unless you succeed in getting the refund you've mentioned, you'll have to hope that the problem will be correctable by a firmware update later on.

My router often disables the Ethernet interface. There are several valid situations where this happens. But without anything untoward happening. I don't get the PC freezing or locking up as a result. As has already been suggested, your BSOD problem might be due to some sort of IRQ conflict. If it's a PCI Ethernet card you're using for connecting the router to the PC, try it in a different PCI slot, one where it'll be allotted an IRQ all of its own and not one shared with some other PCI device. Look in Windows's Computer Management section for the list of IRQs for your PC and the devices or services to which each one is currently allocated. Despite what a lot of people think, there's nothing wrong in principle with the sharing of IRQs but what you do need to be careful about, with IRQs, is that system resources are handled properly. If your PC is listed in Device Manager as an ACPI machine, it helps if you set things up in the System BIOS so that the BIOS, rather than Windows, allocates (dynamically) system resources. That way, you avoid clashes for memory space. So, make sure that the settings in your System BIOS are correct in that regard. Read your motherboard manual carefully and make any necessary changes. A lot of people do get IRQ handling wrong.

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If all those errors turn out to be a hardware fault in the router, Speedtouch and their distributors are going to be faced with an horrendous problem of having to recall all of those particular routers. Under those circumstances, my guess is that they'd quickly conclude it to be impractical and wouldn't bother.

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I'm sure that's what they would conclude too, because although most of the bugs are annoying, they don't stop the router doing what it was designed to do. Heck, if router manufacturers recalled the models which had bugs in them, half of the D-Link range would disappear overnight

Yes, agreed.

Doubt that there wil ever be a mass recall of these routers for this particular problem.

Sent the 546 back for a refund yesterday and am having problems sourcing a 546 v5 now.

Speedtouch online and DSL source only have v6 models now.

Not all that tempted by the

Edited by BlobbyBlobby (Thu 26-Oct-06 13:07:58)