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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 19-Jan-11 14:33:26
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Re: Wireless N Routers...


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Ethernet is the best way, better than HomePlug and other than hassle to do, is cheaper to do.

Some people will see improvements when using an N device, not so much because of N but because of it being a better router, better antenna etc

Not all G kit is created identical, some might manage only 15Meg download even in ideal conditions. In the same way all N kit is not identical.

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(deleted) Fri 21-Jan-11 10:47:34
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Ethernet is the best way, better than HomePlug and other than hassle to do, is cheaper to do.

Some people will see improvements when using an N device, not so much because of N but because of it being a better router, better antenna etc

Not all G kit is created identical, some might manage only 15Meg download even in ideal conditions. In the same way all N kit is not identical.


I know that Ethernet is better. I did mention that there is some building work going on in my house right now so there is no real place where I can sit the Router down permanently and nail down wires onto the wall.

It would be pointless in nailing down the wires now when the Router has to be moved every few days hence why I�m only using the Wireless at the moment.

I�ve been having signal strength problems with the PS3 since I started using it Wireless. It went down to as low as 3% last night. The Router is downstairs and the PS3 is upstairs about 30 metres away. I was hoping that a Wireless N Router would at least solve the strength problems.

I know that I�m never going to get full download speeds via Wireless unless I install Wireless N NICs at every client but if I can just get a consistent strength then that will solve half the problem until I can find somewhere to put the Router permanently.

I�m with Sky Broadband so I can�t use my own Modem Router. I wanted to buy a Wireless N Cable Router to connect to the Sky Modem Router. The cheapest Wireless N Cable Routers are £30 or so.

I gather that they can be connected to an ADSL2+ Modem Router via Ethernet leading from the Sky Modem Router and into the WAN port on the Cable Router. Then the Wireless can be disabled on the Sky Modem Router and then the Wireless can be enabled on the Cable Router. Is it really as simple as that? Just plug in and go? I'm seriously considering this as an option seeing as I can't use my own ADSL2+ Modem Router.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 21-Jan-11 12:59:27
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You need to buy a Wireless Access Point - not a wireless router if you want to keep things simple

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(deleted) Sat 22-Jan-11 14:45:29
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You need to buy a Wireless Access Point - not a wireless router if you want to keep things simple


What is so significant about a Wireless Access Point? I thought that a Wireless Router has a Wireless Access Point built-in?

Stand alone Wireless Access Points are hard to come by even in places like PC World whereas Wireless Cable Routers or Wireless ADSL Routers are readily available.

My idea was to use my existing Sky Modem Router as a Modem only by disabling the Wireless and disabling the DHCP Server. Then I can hook up an RJ45 Ethernet cable into Ethernet port 1 on the Sky Modem Router and put the other end of that cable into the WAN port on the Cable Router. Then I can setup the DHCP Server and Wireless on the Cable Router.

I was hoping that the Cable Router can piggyback the WAN IP Address from the Sky Modem Router and then the Cable Router can assign local network IP Addresses automatically via the DHCP Server and Wireless interface. Does that make sense? I�ve never done something like this before but have a fair idea on how it should work (in theory).
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(staff) Sat 22-Jan-11 15:25:22
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Wireless router includes routing abilities, i.e. The next from you Sky router, would be taken and a second network created, so that machines connected via Etherent to the Sky router won't see computers connected to the wireless router. In effect you create a double NAT situation which can cause problems with some games.

A wireless access point simply converts an Ethernet network into a wireless network, i.e. computers using wireless will be able to see all the ones using ethernet.

You are best doing this:

1. Leave Sky router in place and let it handle all the DHCP
2. http://www.linksysbycisco.com/EU/en/products/WAP610N (no idea how good but the sort of thing you want)

Your idea will work in theory, in practice very hard to impossible to achieve with the Sky router.

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(deleted) Sat 22-Jan-11 16:59:03
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(deleted) Sat 29-Jan-11 16:04:59
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I've been doing more testing and have now got a new problem.

The 2 Laptops that I'm using are both Wireless G enabled but one Laptop has an Atheros Wi-Fi NIC with Windows XP installed and the second Laptop has a Broadcom Wi-Fi NIC with Windows Vista installed.

I've been doing the speed tests again and the second Laptop now gets the full download speed capable from my phone line despite the Wi-Fi network speed being 54 Mbps.

Now I'm starting to think that the behaviour with the first Laptop and the PS3 is some kind of bizarre compatibility problem.

Incidentally, the Sky Router that I'm using is a Sagem with a Broadcom based chipset. I don't know if that has any bearing on things in terms of compatibility.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sat 29-Jan-11 23:59:08
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I've been doing more testing and have now got a new problem.

The 2 Laptops that I'm using are both Wireless G enabled but one Laptop has an Atheros Wi-Fi NIC with Windows XP installed and the second Laptop has a Broadcom Wi-Fi NIC with Windows Vista installed.

I've been doing the speed tests again and the second Laptop now gets the full download speed capable from my phone line despite the Wi-Fi network speed being 54 Mbps.

Now I'm starting to think that the behaviour with the first Laptop and the PS3 is some kind of bizarre compatibility problem.

Incidentally, the Sky Router that I'm using is a Sagem with a Broadcom based chipset. I don't know if that has any bearing on things in terms of compatibility.
Well if the Vista laptop is fine and the XP one isn't, it looks as though you ignored this post.

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