How does it work then? And thanks for that babyf :') I will keep you updated on how it all goes :').

In reply to a post by gouledw:

REIN engineer came today and found nothing major wrong with the line. So I think I am going to go ahead with the router, as I believe I can control the SNR on it? And will arrange another engineer after a week of testing with the Billion if the problem still persists. Im thinking if after that, the only solution will be to move to Business Grade broadband where the SNR will not drop at night.

Does business grade use a different version of the laws of physics?


Why not read the advice given and take some of it.

A REIN Engineer was a waste of time and money - that is not your problem, your problem is a long line and the inherent issues they have. You cannot change the fact and throwing money at it will not resolve the issues.

Edited by MHC (Fri 24-Feb-12 22:15:49)

In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:

200 = +6dB
150 = +3dB

OP only needs +ve dBs; might even need +12dB, is that 300?

Yes throwing money at it will help, and has helped. I paid Openreach £30,000 to have part of the line replaced, that wasn't faulty, but had it upgraded from DIG cable .5 to .9 gauge to increase the broadband speed. And would be happy to dish out another £30k if needs be. So I dont really think trying a new router, is a complete waste of time, you never know until you try.

And the REIN was BT not me.

In reply to a post by gouledw:

How does it work then?

Whether you are on an ADSL 'business' package or 'normal' package your lines noise margin will work the same.
(Unless as MrS says you switch to a FTTH/P connection.)

Your noise margin will fluctuate from your line's Target margin and if it gets too low the line will lose connection/sync. All you can do is make sure you've optimised your wiring to ensure you get the best out of things.

Router choice does make a big difference (see my story in my signature) but again, you can only make the best of things. You seem to be on a very long line with that attenuation so there's a limit on any improvements you can make. Increasing your noise margin (either via your ISP or by tweaking your router) will help stabilise your connection by trading off sync speed for margin.

£30k and just 2.5Meg out of it?

Even with 0.9 gauge your attenuation is high, if you are wanting speed then consider BET, which is £1k to £2k

NOTE REIN is rarely created by BT but arises from electrical hardware and AM radio stations. I

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

£30k and just 2.5Meg out of it?

Even with 0.9 gauge your attenuation is high, if you are wanting speed then consider BET, which is £1k to £2k

NOTE REIN is rarely created by BT but arises from electrical hardware and AM radio stations. I

Wouldn't a 2nd, maybe 3rd line be more cost effective?

I couldn't put in any additinal lines, the existing one, was underground and not ducted, and there was about a km of it. So I paid to have some new poles, and new ducting and higher gauge cable.

Can you get additional lines now?

Yes but Im not willing to move from BT Retail.