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Standard User 4M2
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 15-Sep-12 19:53:53
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Re: Which Modem Router in a Broadband Slowspot?


[re: sjr] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by sjr:
I'm on ADSL2 but at 62.0db attenuation there's little difference between ADSL Max and ADSL2


IP Profiling might significant in terms of throughput though?
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 15-Sep-12 20:02:01
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Re: Which Modem Router in a Broadband Slowspot? - EDITED


[re: 4M2] [link to this post]
 
I suspect poster meant ADSL(1) not ADSL Max cuz if he is on a ADSL2 enabled line he can downgrade to ADSL(1) not ADSL Max.

Therefore there will be no IP Profiling if he is on LLU and if he isn't then IP Profiling will be applied on all ADSL Modes anyway.

EDIT: From his Profile poster is on Entanet, which is LLU I believe. So no IP Profiling and ADSL(1) is possible.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 19 Meg WBC

Edited by XRaySpeX (Sat 15-Sep-12 20:08:13)

Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sat 15-Sep-12 20:12:27
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Re: Which Modem Router in a Broadband Slowspot? - EDITED


[re: XRaySpeX] [link to this post]
 
I suspect the profile is way out of date. ADSL24 moved away from Entanet years ago. Entanet isn't LLU anyway.

I forget what sjr is on at the moment.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk
Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost. Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.0/13.9Mbps @ 600m.

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Edited by RobertoS (Sat 15-Sep-12 20:13:05)


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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 15-Sep-12 20:32:51
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Re: Which Modem Router in a Broadband Slowspot? - EDITED


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by RobertoS:
Entanet isn't LLU anyway.
I inferred LLU from SamKnows' "LLU operator presence" list.

Anyway it makes my observation no less valid smile

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 19 Meg WBC

Edited by XRaySpeX (Sat 15-Sep-12 20:36:56)

Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sat 15-Sep-12 20:45:13
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Re: Which Modem Router in a Broadband Slowspot? - EDITED


[re: XRaySpeX] [link to this post]
 
Some of their business networks will be what gives them that status. They don't do retail LLU connections, and by "retail" I mean all the home and SOHO/business products that the Entanet resellers we know of offer.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk
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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 16-Sep-12 13:15:23
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Re: Which Modem Router in a Broadband Slowspot?


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Might be worth a try when you are at home over the w/end, powerdown (switch it off)) the router last thing at night or around 8.00am the following morning and unplug the power brick and leave it off for a few hours. Connect the router directly into the test socket eventually plug the router's power brick back in and power up at around1.00pm to 2.00pm.
Don't plug in/connect the phone, take the router stats ASAP.


Here are the latest stats:



System Up Time 00:06:28
Port Status TxPkts RxPkts Collisions Tx B/s Rx B/s Up Time
WAN PPPoA 7109 7643 0 2549 22517 00:05:47
LAN 10M/100M 8040 7601 0 21915 2561 00:06:10
WLAN 54M/65M/150M 47 0 0 30 0 00:06:13

ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 1152 Kbps 448 Kbps
Line Attenuation 62.0 dB 31.5 dB
Noise Margin 13.4 dB 13.0 dB

Note that this reads 'Time up 06.28': I got the stats immediately on start-up but the copy I made of them failed to paste into this forum. However, the figures were the same - except the noise margin read 13.6dB.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 16-Sep-12 13:29:00
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Re: Which Modem Router in a Broadband Slowspot?


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Have you done anything about monitoring the SNR over 24-48 hours?

Although getting the SRNM reset to 6 will be a good start anyway.
Anonymous
(Unregistered)Sun 16-Sep-12 13:57:10
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Re: Which Modem Router in a Broadband Slowspot?


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Well the signal noise margin hasn't changed much with the router connected into the TEST socket so you'll have to wait for the reset to 6db and see if it remains at that figure the greater the uptime becomes.

IMHO if you don't use the wireless connection at all from the router then it's a good idea to switch it off altogether (WLAN 54M/65M/150M 47 0 0 30 0 00:06:13 )

Harry
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 16-Sep-12 15:04:28
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Re: Which Modem Router in a Broadband Slowspot?


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Try the samknows website .....

http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange_search

Worth a read if you've time with regard to line stats .....

http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/linestats.htm


Alastair - Thanks for the links. I have had time to read them this afternoon and now the whole subject is just a wee bit less murky!
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 16-Sep-12 15:26:04
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Re: Which Modem Router in a Broadband Slowspot?


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IMHO if you don't use the wireless connection at all from the router then it's a good idea to switch it off altogether (WLAN 54M/65M/150M 47 0 0 30 0 00:06:13 )

Harry



Yes, Harry, I would certainly turn off the wireless function but we have a wireless printer...

From everything that has been written, it seems that the main problem we have here is the length and poor quality of the line. The suggestions for modem routers that can best cope with this have been:

Netgear DG834v3
2Wire 2700HG-B
Thomson Speedtouch 585v6
or something from the Billion range.

Do you think it is worth ordering one of these or should we wait and see what happens when the NM is lowered to 6dB?

BTW, many thanks to all for the comments and suggestions.
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