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Standard User GonePostal
(experienced) Mon 23-Aug-21 23:58:22
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Re: Replacing BT Router


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If you use Google's public DNS, Quad 9 or Cloudflare's DNS you will get DNSSEC validation assuming your client device is configured correctly (you can test with this helpful website: https://dnssec.vs.uni-due.de/).


The link is trying to resolve including the ")." at the end, I think https://dnssec.vs.uni-due.de/ will work better.
Standard User trolleybus
(experienced) Tue 24-Aug-21 16:36:57
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Re: Replacing BT Router


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The fastest are always on the local network, e.g. at your ISP.

You'd think so but you'd be amazed how many ISP's screw up DNS.

In reply to a post by jchamier:
There is no advantage to using Google's public DNS (8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4) but if you were to use Quad 9's (9.9.9.9) or CloudFlare (1.1.1.1) then they filter malware domains.

I just remembered another advantage which is why I'm not exclusively using BT's DNS resolvers, they don't properly support DNSSEC which is important for ensuring the validity/integrity of DNS. If you use Google's public DNS, Quad 9 or Cloudflare's DNS you will get DNSSEC validation assuming your client device is configured correctly (you can test with this helpful website: https://dnssec.vs.uni-due.de/).


Well that's quite interesting about DNSSEC with a "Jack and Jill" explanation available on the Internet. And yes BTs DNS addresses do not support it, which IMHO opinion they should. Earlier in this thread there was mention of a tool to use to find the fastest DNS servers which when used shows the BT router failing miserably. Google DNS was much better but even they were surpassed by 47 others of which 9.9.9.9 was one.

Personally I would prefer to use a DNS server located in the UK which supports DNSSEC but they appear to be few and far between. It is noted that to use another DNS server then this thread says what needs to be disabled within BT.. Please be aware that this swap out is in a friends house who believes that BT is the bees knees when it is obvious that it isn't.

Add into the mix of problems of private domain names having difficulty in getting their emails through to BT email accounts and I would only wish end users would select a different ISP.
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 24-Aug-21 20:49:15
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Re: Replacing BT Router


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Add into the mix of problems of private domain names having difficulty in getting their emails through to BT email accounts and I would only wish end users would select a different ISP.
The best advice to give everyone is never to use ISP email, so you have freedom in moving.

21 years of broadband connectivity since 1999 trial - Live BQM


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Standard User Pheasant
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 24-Aug-21 20:52:22
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Ditto for ISP provisioned landline / VoIP.

Indy every time.
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 24-Aug-21 20:58:54
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Ditto for ISP provisioned landline / VoIP

Exactly, I have corporate quality email for £3/month and AAISP's VoIP service is £1.20/month. These things aren't expensive smile

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Standard User trolleybus
(experienced) Wed 25-Aug-21 09:44:40
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Ditto for ISP provisioned landline / VoIP

Exactly, I have corporate quality email for £3/month and AAISP's VoIP service is £1.20/month. These things aren't expensive smile

You are preaching to the converted here. I help a lot of people with their internet issues and when I even suggest something along those lines you are almost shown the front door.

We are all here on this forum to learn of best practices for a trouble free internet experience. Your average man in the street does not know much more than what comes with the package they get from the ISP and would not know where to start to escape from that straight jacket. Although some have accidently side step the issue by using Gmail and the like.
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 25-Aug-21 10:08:43
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Your average man in the street does not know much more than what comes with the package they get from the ISP and would not know where to start to escape from that straight jacket. Although some have accidently side step the issue by using Gmail and the like.
In the USA it was common to only get one email mailbox for an ISP subscription, even in the dial up days, whereas in the UK we had 5 or 8 or even 10 mailboxes. This is one reason why webmail services generally started in the USA, back to the original HoTMaiL (capitalisation deliberate).

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Standard User Pheasant
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 25-Aug-21 12:28:47
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... and when I even suggest something along those lines you are almost shown the front door.

We are all here on this forum to learn of best practices for a trouble free internet experience. Your average man in the street does not know much more than what comes with the package they get from the ISP and would not know where to start to escape from that straight jacket. Although some have accidently side step the issue by using Gmail and the like.

Really? How odd. Perhaps that's a hang up from a time passed by, when most folks only ever knew of what an 'ISP' could provide them. Slightly ageist comment I suppose. Maybe there is some sort of security in keeping an old ISP issued email address.

On the other hand the average 30 year old and under in my experience, is pretty savvy when it comes to tech and awareness of alternative platforms.
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