You can get the UDM-Pro to run a PPPoE session which replaces teh modem.

In reply to a post by Scoot:

Do any of these suggestions encompass Modem and Router? is it best to keep the BT modem, guessing it will be an all in one device they supply.

There is no "modem" as such with FTTP, but what you get instead is an Openreach-supplied Optical Network Termination (ONT). This is a small powered box. On one side of this is where the engineer connects the fibre, and the other side is an RJ45 connector which you connect to your router's WAN port.

You *must* use the Openreach supplied ONT: you cannot change this out, and you don't own it. If you move house, you leave it behind with the property.

So whichever provider you use - and it doesn't have to be BT - you will have a two box solution: the Openreach ONT, and the router (either ISP-supplied or your own), with a CAT5e ethernet cable between them.

Note: if you took the BT FTTP service with voice, the voice service can *only* be accessed via the BT-supplied router. You can replace the router, but you'll lose the voice if you do.

In reply to a post by MHC:

You can get the UDM-Pro to run a PPPoE session which replaces teh modem.

That's wrong in several important ways:

* There's no modem with FTTP
* There is an ONT (which arguably does the job of a "modem"), but you can't replace it

You're right in saying that if you bought service from BT, and you connect your own router to the ONT, then it needs to run PPPoE. (Some other providers don't use PPPoE, e.g. Sky and Talktalk resi)

I haven't used the UDM/UDM-Pro, but people on this list have said it doesn't do a good job of PPPoE, so buyer beware.

I would suggest, firstly: if you're not a technical expert, then seriously consider sticking with the BT-supplied router. It's free, it's supported, and it's already set up to provide a gigabit.

If you are a technical expert, then you wouldn't be asking on this list anyway.

If you still want to use your own router, then buy whichever model you're comfortable with configuring. *You'll* be the one responsible for setting it up and tuning your network to make use of a gigabit.

I think that when most people say they want to use their own router, what they really mean is they want better wifi coverage. In that case, in my opinion it makes more sense to install separate wifi access point(s) in other parts of the house, with CAT5e cable(s) back to the router. This will give you far better wifi coverage than any single device in one location.

In reply to a post by candlerb:

I haven't used the UDM/UDM-Pro, but people on this list have said it doesn't do a good job of PPPoE, so buyer beware.

Resolved (finally!) in a recent FW update:
https://community.ui.com/questions/ETA-on-bugfix-for...

I use their access points (excellent) but use others for routing.

Edit to add: in my experience and that of others, numerous issues with Ubiquiti are down to [censored] poor firmware, which is a shame as they do have some good hardware, features and the UX is good…. but let down by frequent release of immature/buggy FW.

I’ve probably just started a small flame war with the UI cognoscenti…but there you go.

Edited by Pheasant (Sat 20-Nov-21 10:03:01)

I would only recommend pfsense or OPNSense but appreciate that it is not for everyone.

It is scalable to multi gbit connections and can be tailored to do pretty much whatever you want but there is a learning curve that is pretty steep and the official hardware is expensive.
Most people build their own for this reason.

Once working though it is about as stable and reliable as anything.
I currently have it running on an APU2 which is a great little box using around 5w but is limited to around 350mbit using PPPoE so I'll need something beefier when I upgrade to a 400/400 connection.

I also have an HP T620 plus which should be OK upto 1Gbit and uses 10w.

The Qotom or Protecli mini PCs are popular and pretty much identical to the official offerings.

I also use Unifi access points and they have never had an issue. They just work.

So running a 1gbit internet connection is not as straight forward as most people think and requires some investment in equipment of around £500+ to get the best out of it.

Edited by smouty (Sat 20-Nov-21 13:14:49)

In reply to a post by smouty:

So running a 1gbit internet connection is not as straight forward as most people think and requires some investment in equipment of around £500+ to get the best out of it.

Or you use the router provided / recommended by the ISP, which for a Gigabit service should have hardware acceleration for PPPoE. Unless using Virgin Media.

In reply to a post by jchamier:

In reply to a post by smouty:

So running a 1gbit internet connection is not as straight forward as most people think and requires some investment in equipment of around £500+ to get the best out of it.

Or you use the router provided / recommended by the ISP, which for a Gigabit service should have hardware acceleration for PPPoE. Unless using Virgin Media.

My Qotom was more like £200 and from a desktop PC I can drive my 1gbit internet connection using DHCP at full speed,

In reply to a post by Michael_Chare:

In reply to a post by jchamier:

In reply to a post by smouty:

So running a 1gbit internet connection is not as straight forward as most people think and requires some investment in equipment of around £500+ to get the best out of it.

Or you use the router provided / recommended by the ISP, which for a Gigabit service should have hardware acceleration for PPPoE. Unless using Virgin Media.

My Qotom was more like £200 and from a desktop PC I can drive my 1gbit internet connection using DHCP at full speed,

So add in a couple of APs and a switch or two and it is closer to £500 I would say.

In my experience ISP equipment is able to meet the advertised speeds and nothing more.

The following site gives throughput figures for a lot of the consumer grade routers so may be worth a browse to compare the available kit and prices (in $$s).

You may need to fiddle with the filter settings to see what benchmark is the most suitable for your use case (available client wifi capabilities etc).

If you want to stick with Asus I'd have thought the RT-AX86U with Merlin firmware installed would be relatively future proof.

https://www.smallnetbuilder.com/tools/charts/router/...

For now why not stick with the 68U and see what happens?

In reply to a post by Michael_Chare:

My Qotom was more like £200 and from a desktop PC I can drive my 1gbit internet connection using DHCP at full speed,

But that's a custom decision, a lot more technical than the majority of ISP customers want to be ? My Asus AX88U WiFi 6 router was about that price in Jan 2020. I know from other reports it can handle high speed lines with PPPoE, but as I have no FTTP around here, its not (yet) important to me.