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Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Tue 03-Jan-23 23:25:36
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Re: Stupid routers :)


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, I suppose router tech have moved on since then.
A little bit, back in 2012 most people had G wifi, and lots of the country was on "upto 8 Mbps" ADSL2+ services!! Lot of change in 10 years.

Amazon will sell you a TPLink suitable for low end use for £35... it may be complete rubbish!
https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-Wireless-Support-UK...

Utterly amazing you can get a WiFi 6 router from TPLink for £70 which would need an external FTTC/VDSL modem.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-Wireless-Support-UK...



I got my old TP-link for wireless broadband, the thing on the roof was a modem if you think of it, the Ethernet cable cam down to a small box that the PSU connected to and then another small Ethernet cable to plug into the Router, They would have sold me a router, but it was expensive, so I got the TP -link one, and it worked well and still works fine, but sadly I have too many Wi-fi devices and it doesn't pick them all up, it is only 2.4Ghz, but it done the jobs, here is a photo of it

i know someone who has the £35 one, they have had it for a while and it works fine for what they use it for. I did look at this one, it is at a good price at the moment.

Adrian

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Standard User JHo1
(member) Wed 04-Jan-23 09:44:23
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Re: Stupid routers :)


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"Lot of change in 10 years." For some,in fact for many, but for those still on a slower connection then wireless N still does the job. There's not much point in a high speed connection from your device to your router only to hit a slow broadband connection. 5GHz doesn't seem to work if you're out of line of sight (not in my house anyway) so 2.4GHz does a perfectly good job.
Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Wed 04-Jan-23 11:31:34
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I realise that a lot of have changed in 10 years, technology does that, and ten years is a long time in technology, a very long time.
My router is in the living room below this room, and according to my phone the link is excellent and is connected at 433Mb/s, so not bad for a router that have been fixed and one that I always had problems with on the Wi-Fi disconnecting, but I think that was more to do with the default setting of separating the bands.

I must admit that Tp-link AX3000 that I linked to on my last post looks pretty good, down to £70 from £130, I know the router have been available for 3 years so better tech now, but it has Wi-fi 6, not that I am too bothered about that.

What do you think about this router.?

I have a openreach VDSL modem, in fact I have two, the original one and the Hauwei I got when I was having problems, if i go for Fibre at some point I can work with that as well and the price for the router looks really good.

Adrian

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Standard User JHo1
(member) Wed 04-Jan-23 13:54:44
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Well it looks good to me but what do I know, I'm just some random bloke on an internet forum smile

Linking to the router at 433 Mbps is good but if your internet speed is 40, 80 (?) then it's no better than a 300Mbps connection. Or 200, or... Still, it does mean that when you get Gigabit FTTP you'll get some benefit out of it smile
Standard User broadband66
(knowledge is power) Wed 04-Jan-23 13:58:42
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"Linking to the router at 433 Mbps is good but if your internet speed is 40, 80 (?) then it's no better than a 300Mbps "

You do understand that people have more than one computer/device and the ability to move stuff around their own LAN quickly requires a fast wireless connection. Ethernet is preferable.

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Standard User broadband66
(knowledge is power) Wed 04-Jan-23 14:02:17
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"i could get a new router from plusnet, but they would want me to renew the contract "

Is the router owned by PN, if so , surely they have to replace it and not force customers on to a new contract?

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Standard User JHo1
(member) Wed 04-Jan-23 14:53:10
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Yes indeed, though I would guess (and that's all it is) that the average user is browsing the internet, streaming tv, playing games. If you want to send stuff around within your network then faster is better regardless of internet speed, though wired is a good idea. Multiple kit? Oh yes but I commented on the connection speed of an individual device. A router running wireless N is going to support several devices at (say) 300Mbps, it doesn't say "I've connected one device at 200Mbps so a second device can only have 100 and a third one can wait".
Standard User broadband66
(knowledge is power) Wed 04-Jan-23 15:52:48
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You'd be lucky to get 50mbps on 'N' with a couple of devices.

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Standard User JHo1
(member) Wed 04-Jan-23 16:22:48
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As you only seem to post in order to disagree with people rather than contribute anything constructive I'll leave you to get on with it.
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 04-Jan-23 16:37:04
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There's not much point in a high speed connection from your device to your router only to hit a slow broadband connection. 5GHz doesn't seem to work if you're out of line of sight (not in my house anyway) so 2.4GHz does a perfectly good job.

Unless you do local backup and don't want to run cables, or stream across your LAN. I had a GigE ethernet LAN at home when my WAN was 512kbps, and so I jumped from G to N (and N 5 GHz) to AC and now AX (WiFi 6) to improve my LAN speeds. WiFi 6 (AX) also means most devices will support WPA3 which improves security again over WPA2. I had a gigabit WAN back in the days of dialup, first with ISDN/Home Highway, and then a much cheaper 5k modem with external dialler.

Maybe I'm the odd one smile

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