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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 24-May-11 08:33:08
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Stages for CAB install


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Does anyone know the stages for a Fibre cab install..

Had a white van on my estate Friday and Monday and something being done to the old cabinet.

Do they need to do anything to the cabinet? Also it was a plan White van and not openreach - are they contratcing this out now?
Standard User BuckleZ
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 24-May-11 08:50:14
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In N.Ireland they use a company called KN Networks to do the install.

When mine was getting installed last week, they came to the cabinet a day before and had a look around and sprayed ojn the ground a reactable were the cabinet was going, then the next they came and the cabinet popped up. Still the cabinet is cordoned off so they are still working on it, probably on the inside.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 24-May-11 09:02:42
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In reply to a post by johnhol:
Does anyone know the stages for a Fibre cab install..

Had a white van on my estate Friday and Monday and something being done to the old cabinet.

Do they need to do anything to the cabinet? Also it was a plan White van and not openreach - are they contratcing this out now?


A lot of the ground work in England at least is being done by Telent. I would have thought that the cab work would have been OR still, but perhaps they were just looking at the postitioning etc as mentioned.


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Standard User Brunel
(experienced) Tue 24-May-11 09:45:03
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http://www.carilliontelent.com/
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 24-May-11 10:14:37
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This hopefully means some movement on a Fibre cab - supposed to have it ready by 30th June smile
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 24-May-11 10:22:10
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The FTTC cabinet is installed close by, then copper cabling laid between the two cabinets. A number of connections are then made in the FTTC cabinet ready for use in the PCP cab.

They were presumably just sorting out the PCP ready to receive/terminate that new cabling.

When someone gets connected to FTTC they jumper-connect a pair from the FTTC one to the existing copper to the premises.

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(deleted) Tue 24-May-11 10:22:42
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A link cable has to be provided between the old and new cabinets, and that has to be terminated in both cabinets onto connection strips which have to be installed inside. This may require moving some of the existing connections within the cabinet to make room or replaicng the cab shell with a larger one.
Alternatively they could just be thieves scouting for cable.
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(deleted) Tue 24-May-11 10:26:45
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In reply to a post by Ribble:
A link cable has to be provided between the old and new cabinets, and that has to be terminated in both cabinets onto connection strips which have to be installed inside. This may require moving some of the existing connections within the cabinet to make room or replaicng the cab shell with a larger one.
Alternatively they could just be thieves scouting for cable.


Hope not.....been waiting for this for too long already
Standard User tonym
(member) Tue 24-May-11 11:52:09
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Mine has just had the electric power cables laid to the new cabinet, with an estimated service date of 30th Sept. With the power just gone in , is this date likely to be brought forward

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Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Tue 24-May-11 12:18:02
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May well have just been a contractor doing a 'normal' fault. The cabinet is a common starting point for faults issued as 'LN' (local network) battery, earth and dis faults where the line looks to be faulty well before the premises.

Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 24-May-11 12:42:36
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In reply to a post by tonym:
Mine has just had the electric power cables laid to the new cabinet, with an estimated service date of 30th Sept. With the power just gone in , is this date likely to be brought forward
I doubt it, but the dates change oddly. The best checker I know of is the BT Wholesale one.

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(deleted) Tue 24-May-11 12:43:53
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Possibly - but FTTC is a lot more than just the cab.. A lot of them have stood humming with no go live due to exchange issues.. One can always hope.. laugh
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(deleted) Tue 24-May-11 13:30:40
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In reply to a post by tonym:
Mine has just had the electric power cables laid to the new cabinet, with an estimated service date of 30th Sept. With the power just gone in , is this date likely to be brought forward
I doubt it, but the dates change oddly. The best checker I know of is the BT Wholesale one.


Well according to the wholesale checker it's still the 30th...fingers crossed

Your cabinet is planned to have WBC FTTC by 30th June 2011. Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 35.7Mbps and upstream line speed of 7.8Mbps.
Standard User bgriffiths
(member) Tue 24-May-11 13:57:26
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When someone gets connected to FTTC they jumper-connect a pair from the FTTC one to the existing copper to the premises.

So what happens if an area is listed to get FTTP? Do they run fibre as far as the poles, the dropwire or right into the premises / master socket?

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http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/4440-openreach-ge...

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Standard User bgriffiths
(member) Tue 24-May-11 14:54:35
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In reply to a post by Ribble:
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/4440-openreach-ge...

I will write out 1000 times "I must use the site search before asking questions"

Thanks for the pointer anyway. That makes sense - the postcode involved has just a dozen houses all served from a single pole which is itself only about 50m from the old cab, so they could presumably deliver overground from the pole.

Having said that, and bragging rights aside, I'm sure an FTTC connection will more than suffice, at least for a few years, and be cheaper. Being so close to the cab we will probably get close to full whack out of FTTC.

Roll on Q1 2012 smile

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 24-May-11 21:56:08
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Well according to the wholesale checker it's still the 30th...fingers crossed

Your cabinet is planned to have WBC FTTC by 30th June 2011. Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 35.7Mbps and upstream line speed of 7.8Mbps.
Which in reality means 40/10Mbps connection, 35-37Mbps actual download depending on provider, and time of day with some like Infinity, over 8Mbps up.

Nearer the time the date can vary back and forth, and the week before it goes live quite possibly lose all mention of FTTC. Losing all mention is usually a good sign, but occasionally means that cabinet has been put back to another phase for some reason.

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