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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Wed 01-Jun-11 18:31:53
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Will me estimated speed increase when fibre is installed?


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I'm currently get an estimated connection speed of 8mbps from BT. I'm with Sky BB ATM and am connecting at 11M up and 0.8M down. Is my estimated connection speed from BT likely to increase if/ when my cabinet gets fiber enabled? I heard you need an estimated speed of 15M for BT infinity, is this still true?
Standard User D_an_W
(committed) Wed 01-Jun-11 20:09:46
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AFAIK yes it is for Infinity but they do offer another fibre product and don't call it that to keep Infinity average speeds up.

Other ISPs can and do offer fibre to people with lower estimated top speeds, maybe worth a look?

EDIT: Forgot to say, I'm 600m away (estimated) and get the full speed connection.

Edited by D_an_W (Wed 01-Jun-11 20:27:47)

Standard User kasg
(committed) Wed 01-Jun-11 20:26:31
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In reply to a post by Anonymous:
I'm currently get an estimated connection speed of 8mbps from BT. I'm with Sky BB ATM and am connecting at 11M up and 0.8M down. Is my estimated connection speed from BT likely to increase if/ when my cabinet gets fiber enabled? I heard you need an estimated speed of 15M for BT infinity, is this still true?
How far away is the cabinet? That is what determines the speed you will get. Mine's about 400m away and I get the maximum speed currently available (40Mb/s, less overheads).

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Standard User Andrue
(knowledge is power) Wed 01-Jun-11 22:09:30
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EDIT: Forgot to say, I'm 600m away (estimated) and get the full speed connection.
Your current speed is completely irrelevant as far as FTTC is concerned. All that matters is how far away your cabinet is. If that's the 600m you refer to then expect speeds in excess of 30Mb/s.

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Standard User D_an_W
(committed) Wed 01-Jun-11 22:12:53
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I am already on FTTC (600m and download at full speed), are you sure you meant to reply to me and not the OP?

Standard User Andrue
(knowledge is power) Wed 01-Jun-11 22:16:00
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I am already on FTTC (600m and download at full speed), are you sure you meant to reply to me and not the OP?
Oh yeah, slip of the mouse. It's been a long day smile

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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Wed 01-Jun-11 22:18:36
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In reply to a post by Anonymous:
I'm currently get an estimated connection speed of 8mbps from BT. I'm with Sky BB ATM and am connecting at 11M up and 0.8M down. Is my estimated connection speed from BT likely to increase if/ when my cabinet gets fiber enabled? I heard you need an estimated speed of 15M for BT infinity, is this still true?
How far away is the cabinet? That is what determines the speed you will get. Mine's about 400m away and I get the maximum speed currently available (40Mb/s, less overheads).


I don't know exactly what cabinet I connect to, I was never told. I have a strong suspicion I'm connected to a cabinet a short distance down the main road from my estate. I used Google earth to estimate the distance following the road and I got 553m.
Standard User burakkucat
(member) Wed 01-Jun-11 23:29:18
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I don't know exactly what cabinet I connect to, I was never told. I have a strong suspicion I'm connected to a cabinet a short distance down the main road from my estate. I used Google earth to estimate the distance following the road and I got 553m.
There was a document available which, if you searched it for your post code, would show exactly to which cabinet your line is connected. Although it has been deleted by which ever division of BT that initially made it public, many of us (including myself) have downloaded a copy. A copy is also available as a Google doc -- but I currently do not recall the URL.

So, if you would like to know which cabinet will serve you for a FTTC product, either quote your post code (if it is not unique to yourself then there is no great security implication) or wait for someone to post the URL for the above Google doc and then look up the information, yourself.

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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Thu 02-Jun-11 11:10:43
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In reply to a post by Anonymous:
I don't know exactly what cabinet I connect to, I was never told. I have a strong suspicion I'm connected to a cabinet a short distance down the main road from my estate. I used Google earth to estimate the distance following the road and I got 553m.
There was a document available which, if you searched it for your post code, would show exactly to which cabinet your line is connected. Although it has been deleted by which ever division of BT that initially made it public, many of us (including myself) have downloaded a copy. A copy is also available as a Google doc -- but I currently do not recall the URL.

So, if you would like to know which cabinet will serve you for a FTTC product, either quote your post code (if it is not unique to yourself then there is no great security implication) or wait for someone to post the URL for the above Google doc and then look up the information, yourself.


Wasn't aware of that. Not comfortable giving out my post code as a friend do a Google search for it, come across this thread and find out I've been exaggerating my speed. Thanks for telling me about it tho.
Anonymous
(Unregistered)Thu 02-Jun-11 12:00:20
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This is the cabinet I suspect I'm connected to:
http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/8931/unledyx.jpg

Is that a BT cabinet? If it is, is it the sort they can upgrade to fiber?
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(deleted) Thu 02-Jun-11 12:18:37
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Yes definately BT but is it definately serving you?.

It's the right shell for upgrading but there's all sorts of other civil and planning considerations to be taken into account, the cab type being one of the least important.
Anonymous
(Unregistered)Thu 02-Jun-11 12:46:44
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In reply to a post by polemonkey:
Yes definately BT but is it definately serving you?.

It's the right shell for upgrading but there's all sorts of other civil and planning considerations to be taken into account, the cab type being one of the least important.


Just found out now from the NGBNI site that the cabinet is due to be upgraded at the end of Setember:
http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/2826/unled9g.jpg
Website: http://www.nibroadband.com/availability.html

I can't be sure if it's the cabinet I connect to or not. I suspect it is as it's in the direction of the exchange and is the nearest to me, the next closest to me is about 1.5km away.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 02-Jun-11 12:58:18
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See what this checker says about your phone number.

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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Thu 02-Jun-11 13:09:48
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See what this checker says about your phone number.


"Your exchange is ADSL enabled, and our initial test on your line indicates that your line should be able to have an ADSL broadband service that provides a fixed line speed up to 2Mbps.

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports an estimated ADSL Max broadband line speed of 8Mbps; typically the line speed would range between 7Mbps and 8Mbps.

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports an estimated ADSL2+ broadband line speed of 8Mbps; typically the line speed would range between 5.5Mbps and 12.5Mbps. Our test also indicates that your line could support an estimated ADSL 2+ Annex-M broadband upstream line speed of 1Mbps and downstream line speed of 5Mbps; typically the downstream speed would range between 4Mbps and 6Mbps.

The actual stable line speed supportable will be determined during the first 10 days of use. This speed may change over time, to ensure line stability is maintained.

Thank you for your interest.

Please note that postcode and address check results are indicative only. Most accurate results can be obtained from a telephone number check.

Note: If you already have a Broadband service enabled on this line and you want to switch service providers, you will need to contact both your current provider and your new provider to get your service changed over new and existing service provider to have this service transferred."
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 02-Jun-11 14:11:33
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That's not good, as I would expect a September fibre enablement to be giving you an estimated speed there frown.

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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Thu 02-Jun-11 16:40:05
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That's not good, as I would expect a September fibre enablement to be giving you an estimated speed there frown.


Does that mean I'm not connected to that cabinet then, am I to far away from it or is the site I used unreliable?
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 02-Jun-11 22:41:07
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Looks as if your checker is better for NI, though the data is February.

There is an Openreach spreadsheet (csv) file that a few people have that could help as well. That works by postcode and I think includes NI. Dated April. It gives the "Phase" for each cabinet.

You'll need to PM someone with your post code. You can try me, but disappearing soon for a couple of weeks.

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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Thu 02-Jun-11 23:43:25
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The best way to figure out if you're on that particular cabinet or not is to email the enquiries address on NGBNI. I had to email them to find out that I was on an enabled cabinet, but too far away to receive service from it. Unfortunately, you may be in the same situation.

However, I found in this area (I'm on the same exchange), the estimates are extremely conservative, and found one amusing instance where the ADSL2+ speed estimate was higher than the FTTC estimate. So this may be playing into it also. However, if you're on a cabinet that isn't enabled, it might update to something a bit more accurate once it's enabled.
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