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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 12-May-12 20:13:54
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BT ahead of schedule?


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Is what this article is saying..
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/broadband/9258...
Could this actually be true?

Satpal
Standard User Kr1s69
(knowledge is power) Sat 12-May-12 20:46:45
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Ahead based on their original announcements. Obviously some exchanges have been delayed. Which is why you see noise and disappointment on here.

Kris

Sky Broadband Unlimited
Ashington (Northumberland) Exchange
Fibre due June 2012!
Standard User tommy45
(knowledge is power) Sat 12-May-12 21:02:11
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Re: BT ahead of schedule?


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In reply to a post by schander:
Is what this article is saying..
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/broadband/9258...
Could this actually be true?

Satpal
Generally speaking it could be, but there are a lot of exchanges behind schedule , they release dates then change them several times in a lot of areas, the way that they are going about it doesn't always follow logic , my exchange is scheduled for June this year so far no NGA related work has been carried out here


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 12-May-12 21:12:28
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All depends on how much manpower is available in your area, why different areas across the country are ahead of the rollout and others behind, its a best speed approach, which BT swtiched to early on in the rollout as they encountered all of the delays.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sun 13-May-12 11:13:07
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The figures were part of their last financial report, and misleading shareholders and stock market will win no friends, so chances are they are correct.

26 million homes in the UK, so no surprise so many still moan about the rollout

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 13-May-12 15:43:49
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Marketing BS i think.

True perhaps in the sense of their revised dates.. but when you look at the openreach targets, they have all been delayed.

i bet if you queried all the people who were watching for when it was due, and asked them when it actually occured, there would be a big gap in the majority of cases.

Everyone will get it eventually over the next few years anyways.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 13-May-12 17:18:57
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Are they not talking about the upgrade making 80/20 available rather than FTTC in general??
That's how it reads to me.
Standard User TheManStan
(regular) Sun 13-May-12 18:54:07
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I think that there has been a revision in te ratio of FTTP:FTTC, as there are far more FTTC cabs around SMCO. I don't think there has been as much publicity. This is how they achieve their numbers ahead of schedule. They simply aren't rolling out as much FTTP, hence less man hours required to achieve target coverage.

Anonymous
(Unregistered)Sun 13-May-12 20:47:43
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There's what... 24mill households in the UK? They've covered 10mill of them. Their target is 90% by 2015 = 21.6mill by 2015.
The rollout began when... July 2009? Covered 34 months so far. 30 months left til 2015. Or 42 months til end of 2015. Let's go with 42 months for purposes of making sense of their claim.

So they're 44% into the programme (lasting til end of 2015).
They've covered 46% of their target.

It therefore appears that they have covered a higher percentage than the time spent in their programme.

However, I'd suggest that a lot of households so far covered are in more urban areas with an easier infrastructure to work with. It might start to drag out a bit when they are pulling many miles of fibre cabling through blocked ducts alongside farmers fields in the rural areas.

That'd be my sceptical interpretation of the stats and their claims.
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(deleted) Sun 13-May-12 21:56:57
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I also think targets are based on exchanges enabled which probably is ahead of schedule.

The 100's of cabinets that are delayed are not really mentioned.
Standard User Metallifux
(newbie) Sun 13-May-12 22:08:04
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Hi Kris, I'm in Ashington too, any sign of any work on the cabinet you are connected to? I'm cabinet 13 and there has been no movement at all.
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(staff) Sun 13-May-12 22:59:30
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The commercial 66% deployment is the mainly urban part of the UK, 90% of the people in the UK live in what is defined as an urban area

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 14-May-12 08:42:50
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The two main targets were to have passed 40% of premises by end 2012 (now achieved), and 66% by 2014 (was originally 2015). The 90% figure was discussed in the context of what may be possible if all/most BDUK money was "won", and then mathed.
Standard User Kr1s69
(knowledge is power) Mon 14-May-12 09:09:05
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Hi,

My cabinet is on first avenue and has had a FTTC cabinet installed and connected to the power grid. Haven't seen much in way of fibre being installed in the town yet though. There are trenches on Hawthorn Road which were dug in the last week, presumably to clear blocked ducts.

There are fibre cabinets on the main street, near the college shops and also at the junction into North Seaton (Canterbury close)

Kris

Sky Broadband Unlimited
Ashington (Northumberland) Exchange
Fibre due June 2012!
Standard User greenglide
(member) Mon 14-May-12 10:29:02
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In reply to a post by Kr1s69:
Hi,

My cabinet is on first avenue and has had a FTTC cabinet installed and connected to the power grid. Haven't seen much in way of fibre being installed in the town yet though. There are trenches on Hawthorn Road which were dug in the last week, presumably to clear blocked ducts.

There are fibre cabinets on the main street, near the college shops and also at the junction into North Seaton (Canterbury close)


And I have been monitoring ELGIN for some time and there has been a significant number of BT roadworks in the North Seaton area. I would have thought that PCP13 would have been done. The December spreadsheet does indicate that it doesnt cover many post codes and some of the post codes are only having part of the enabled but that is probably because the same street is served by two CABs.

I am on PCP55 which seems to be completed in very little time (plonked on the grass and connected to the CAB and mains within a fortnight.

BT roadworks started and due to last a fortnight or so in a few areas which I assume is to clear blocked ducts. BT has also commenced roadworks on Choppington Lane which has been live for ages on the Bedlington exchange - is this provisioning the Ashington exchange from Bedlingtos?

Ex <n>ildram , been to SKY MAX - 15,225 Download
BE Unlimited - 21,000 Download 1,200 Upload,
Moved house, now BE Unlimited 6,500 Down, 1Mb/s up - gutted!
FTTC Cab installation commenced 12th April - expect full 80 / 20 - bye bye BE, hello BT Infinity soon!
Standard User Metallifux
(newbie) Mon 14-May-12 12:41:26
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I'm in North Seaton Village so if they have done cabs on the other side of North Seaton they might have just not made it over to the other side yet. Fingers crossed anyhow.
Standard User greenglide
(member) Mon 14-May-12 13:40:30
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Well they have been busy at Newbiggin which I assume is on the Ashington exchange for some time now and can see no real reason why North Seaton village should have been missed out - are you sure there isnt a new CAB hidden somewhere? Beside us an existing CAB on the grass beside the main road has its FTTC friend hidden just inside the estate that it serves.

According to their Twitter feed Blyth has gone live today and that was running at about the same schedule.

Was does the BT ADSL checker say?

Ex <n>ildram , been to SKY MAX - 15,225 Download
BE Unlimited - 21,000 Download 1,200 Upload,
Moved house, now BE Unlimited 6,500 Down, 1Mb/s up - gutted!
FTTC Cab installation commenced 12th April - expect full 80 / 20 - bye bye BE, hello BT Infinity soon!
Standard User Metallifux
(newbie) Mon 14-May-12 13:54:50
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Your cabinet is planned to have WBC FTTC by 30th June 2012. Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 60Mbps and upstream line speed of 20Mbps.
Standard User Kr1s69
(knowledge is power) Mon 14-May-12 14:20:52
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Newbiggin is covered by the Ashington exchange.

Also as part of the rollout they're covering cabs on neighbouring exchanges that weren't originally done, for example pegswood is being done (it's on Morpeth exchange)

Good to see Blyth is active.

Kris

Sky Broadband Unlimited
Ashington (Northumberland) Exchange
Fibre due June 2012!
Standard User greenglide
(member) Mon 14-May-12 16:30:01
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So they do "intend" to do it! Of course when the exchange is ready for service I dont suppose they would enable all the CABs on the same day even if they are ready owing to the volume of orders they would get, each requiring an engineer visit!

Are you sure there isnt a new CAB hidden away or is there a shortage of space to put the new one?

They are good at hiding them!

Ex <n>ildram , been to SKY MAX - 15,225 Download
BE Unlimited - 21,000 Download 1,200 Upload,
Moved house, now BE Unlimited 6,500 Down, 1Mb/s up - gutted!
FTTC Cab installation commenced 12th April - expect full 80 / 20 - bye bye BE, hello BT Infinity soon!
Standard User Metallifux
(newbie) Tue 15-May-12 07:32:34
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There could be I guess, due to it being a small street the cabinet that serves my house is very small, not sure if it covers the Demesne as well, may be one in the Demesne I guess.
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