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Standard User mikegg
(newbie) Tue 03-Jul-12 20:21:13
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FTTC - Gresford - What happens next ?


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I saw OR installing cable in Gresford today so I assume they are starting FTTC (we were due FTTC on 1st June 12 but now been moved to 1st Sept 12)

Couple of questions
1 Will I have to move ISP to see an increase in speed (currently with Post Office)

2 Do they have to change the socket in the property?

Thanks

Edited by mikegg (Tue 03-Jul-12 21:04:57)

Standard User simon194
(member) Tue 03-Jul-12 21:50:40
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I saw OR installing cable in Gresford today so I assume they are starting FTTC (we were due FTTC on 1st June 12 but now been moved to 1st Sept 12)

Couple of questions
1 Will I have to move ISP to see an increase in speed (currently with Post Office)

2 Do they have to change the socket in the property?

Thanks

1. You will have to change ISP's because the Post Office doesn't offer any fibre products at the moment.

2. They just add an interstitial plate with a filter to the existing socket.
Standard User mikegg
(newbie) Wed 04-Jul-12 20:02:21
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Re: FTTC - Gresford - What happens next ?


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1. You will have to change ISP's because the Post Office doesn't offer any fibre products at the moment.



Where would I find what choices I have re ISP ?

Thanks

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Standard User simon194
(member) Wed 04-Jul-12 21:34:51
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Re: FTTC - Gresford - What happens next ?


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1. You will have to change ISP's because the Post Office doesn't offer any fibre products at the moment.



Where would I find what choices I have re ISP ?

Thanks

This spreadsheet will give you some idea.
Here

The Sky entry is out of date because their Fibre Unlimited product is now 40/10 not 40/2 and also doesn't include Fibre Pro Unlimited which is their 80/20 product but costs £30 pm.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 04-Jul-12 22:13:50
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It's worth noting that many of the 40/10Mbps products there are now 80/20Mbps, many if not all of them at unchanged prices.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk
My domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost. Internet connection - Plusnet Value Fibre 80/20 trial.

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Standard User simon194
(member) Thu 05-Jul-12 01:03:35
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It's worth noting that many of the 40/10Mbps products there are now 80/20Mbps, many if not all of them at unchanged prices.

But for how much longer? The BTW discount on the 80/20 product ends on the 11th July.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 05-Jul-12 09:18:59
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I'd forgotten that frown. It'll be interesting to se what they all do.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk
My domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost. Internet connection - Plusnet Value Fibre 80/20 trial.

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Standard User mikegg
(newbie) Fri 06-Jul-12 17:05:43
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This spreadsheet will give you some idea.


Many thanks.

Am I correct in thinking that I am still limited by LLU in my exchange - so not all of these would be available to me ?
Standard User simon194
(member) Fri 06-Jul-12 21:58:15
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In reply to a post by mikegg:
In reply to a post by simon194:
This spreadsheet will give you some idea.


Many thanks.

Am I correct in thinking that I am still limited by LLU in my exchange - so not all of these would be available to me ?

The only "LLU" suppliers are Sky and Talk Talk. The rest AFAIK just resell the BT Wholesale product so as long as the BT checker says you can get fibre you should be able to sign with any of them.
Standard User jchamier
(knowledge is power) Fri 06-Jul-12 22:53:26
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The only "LLU" suppliers are Sky and Talk Talk. The rest AFAIK just resell the BT Wholesale product so as long as the BT checker says you can get fibre you should be able to sign with any of them.


The words "resell BTwholesale product" are a bit misleading. They use BTw network to get from your home to the ISP network. The ISP network/internet service is all separate.

Essentially no different to dial up when you could dial multiple ISPs from your home using the same copper wires supplied by BT.

James - be* pro - 16.8mbps sync - BQM
FTTC cab arrived 18-jun-2012 (due Mar 2011) - Openreach estimate 44.6Mbps / 6.5Mbps
Standard User mikegg
(newbie) Fri 07-Sep-12 20:57:00
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Cabs now starting to be installed - two other questions

1 How long is the 'average' time from cab installation to going live?. I appreciate this may vary a lot.

2 Will I see any speed increase at all if I just stay with my current ISP ?

Thanks
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Fri 07-Sep-12 21:07:05
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2 Will I see any speed increase at all if I just stay with my current ISP ?
If you mean will FTTC at your cabinet mean your existing broadband will speed up, the answer is No. Existing broadband continues as though the fibre wasn't there. Have a read of how fibre connects in.

You will need to upgrade to one of your ISP's fibre products, or migrate to one elsewhere.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk
Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost. Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.0/13.9Mbps @ 600m.

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Standard User mikegg
(newbie) Fri 07-Sep-12 21:37:03
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Existing broadband continues as though the fibre wasn't there. Have a read of how fibre connects in.


Thanks - now understand how it works !!
Standard User mikegg
(newbie) Sun 09-Sep-12 20:24:49
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Started see new cabinets by existing cabs but have also seen a new cabinet on a street without it being near an existing cab. It is adjacent to a BT manhole but definitely no old cabinet anywhere near. Is that usual?
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Typically within 50m of the PCP
Standard User mikegg
(newbie) Sun 18-Nov-12 14:09:31
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Gresford Exchange now FTTC enabled

OR checker still showing 'Coming Soon' but BT Availability Checker shows available (and BT/TT/Plusnet all accepting orders)

Edited by mikegg (Sun 18-Nov-12 14:11:41)

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