Is this my local cabinet?

I've used the fttc postcode checker to work out when I can expect FTTC for my phone number and that site indicates that some homes have FTTC but not mine. The information says that my local cabinet is P33 and roughly locates it on the map (the yellow pin) so I've used Google Streetview and located what I think is cabinet P33

I've looked at some images of BT cabinets on Google and it looks like that Streetview image is my local cabinet, but the question is, when FTTC becomes available for my phone number, will that cabinet be replaced with a new larger one or will the new larger one sit near it?

Just wondering what to keep an eye out for...

The FTTC cabinet usually is located near, in your case probably close on that bit of grass.

http://www.coolwebhome.co.uk/fibre-cornwall/images/f... shows that there is not much space left in a FTTC cab for the old wiring

This is PCP33.

Given the prominent 33 looks like it, nice pavement or grass area they can use

Should already be in place.

The yellow marker for my cab is showing its 3 streets away from where it really is.
How can they get it so wrong when they have all the information in front of them

In reply to a post by Ribble:

Should already be in place.

How do you work that out?

Wahey! Just ordered an upgrade to FTTC from Plusnet! Engineer visit next Friday afternoon!

I think this thread has been the quickest where is my cab to I've ordered, even the installation time is quick, normally it's about 3 weeks.

In reply to a post by R0NSKI:

I think this thread has been the quickest where is my cab to I've ordered, even the installation time is quick, normally it's about 3 weeks.

Yes, I was pretty surprised and amazed at that. Obviously it's just a question of timing and I've been lucky. Let's hope the installation is smooth and that the FTTC upgrade yields the stated 60Mb DL/20Mb UL speeds

You may get even more than the 60 down, but I doubt you'll get 20 up, mine should be 57/20, but I'm currently synced at 44/11

In reply to a post by R0NSKI:

I think this thread has been the quickest where is my cab to I've ordered, even the installation time is quick, normally it's about 3 weeks.

I wish my order was that quick. I've just been able to order fibre at my new place and I have to wait until 18th December.

In reply to a post by R0NSKI:

You may get even more than the 60 down, but I doubt you'll get 20 up, mine should be 57/20, but I'm currently synced at 44/11

I have never synced at less than 20 up, my downstream sync varies from mid 60s to low 70s (estimate 58.1).

ok, don't rub it in :'(

In reply to a post by R0NSKI:

ok, don't rub it in :'(

Sorry, I didn't intend to, just pointing out that at a downstream sync of 60+, full 20Mbps upstream sync was likely.

Not a problem, only a bit of banter really.

Is there anything worth knowing in advance of the OR Engineer visit?

Also, is the cable that comes from the VSDL faceplate and connects to the VDSL modem the same type of cable that's used to connect from an ADSL faceplate an ADSL router/modem?

Yes it is - OR provide the cable.

If you plant to move the modem (or to get the OR installer to place it further away) you should get a "home wiring solution" which is an extension cable.

It is free but needs to be ordered by the ISP from OR. Some ISPs do this automatically.

In reply to a post by greenglide:

Yes it is - OR provide the cable.

If you plant to move the modem (or to get the OR installer to place it further away) you should get a "home wiring solution" which is an extension cable.

It is free but needs to be ordered by the ISP from OR. Some ISPs do this automatically.

Thanks

I've got an RJ11 -> RJ45 cable that I made to connect from the ADSL faceplate to a neighbouring network socket, which ends up at a patch panel. In another room a similar cable connects from a network socket to my router, then at the patch panel end I've connected both network sockets together. Works well so I'm hoping I can locate the VDSL modem somewhere out of the way using the same technique.

In reply to a post by joconnell:

In reply to a post by greenglide:

Yes it is - OR provide the cable.

If you plant to move the modem (or to get the OR installer to place it further away) you should get a "home wiring solution" which is an extension cable.

It is free but needs to be ordered by the ISP from OR. Some ISPs do this automatically.

Thanks

I've got an RJ11 -> RJ45 cable that I made to connect from the ADSL faceplate to a neighbouring network socket, which ends up at a patch panel. In another room a similar cable connects from a network socket to my router, then at the patch panel end I've connected both network sockets together. Works well so I'm hoping I can locate the VDSL modem somewhere out of the way using the same technique.

This is even more likely to negatively affect your sync rate than on ADSL.

You should site the Openreach VDSL modem at the master socket and use your technique to connect the Ethernet WAN port of the VDSL modem to the Ethernet WAN port of your chosen router

In reply to a post by izools:

In reply to a post by joconnell:

I've got an RJ11 -> RJ45 cable that I made to connect from the ADSL faceplate to a neighbouring network socket, which ends up at a patch panel. In another room a similar cable connects from a network socket to my router, then at the patch panel end I've connected both network sockets together. Works well so I'm hoping I can locate the VDSL modem somewhere out of the way using the same technique.

This is even more likely to negatively affect your sync rate than on ADSL.

You should site the Openreach VDSL modem at the master socket and use your technique to connect the Ethernet WAN port of the VDSL modem to the Ethernet WAN port of your chosen router

I did wonder about that although there's no noticeable impact with my ADSL router. I'll try it first when the new facrplate is installed and if the sync rate isn't acceptable, then do as you suggest and site the OT modem next to to master socket.

My wife has a pathalogical hatred of electrical cables and boxes so I'm trying to avoid having the OR modem anywhere where it's visible

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Given the prominent 33 looks like it, nice pavement or grass area they can use

And they have done so - there's a larger green box on the corner piece of grass opposite cab 33

In reply to a post by joconnell:

I did wonder about that although there's no noticeable impact with my ADSL router. I'll try it first when the new facrplate is installed and if the sync rate isn't acceptable, then do as you suggest and site the OT modem next to to master socket.

My wife has a pathalogical hatred of electrical cables and boxes so I'm trying to avoid having the OR modem anywhere where it's visible

The engineer should insist on siting the modem at the master, unless you are using at least CAT5 wiring in your setup.

He will probably want to wall mount it as well, but that isn't compulsory. So you need to make sure he doesn't.

It is a bad idea to do anything with the modem till the end of the day after the day of installation. The DLM at the cabinet is especially sensitive during that period and you might cause it to apply a (low) "banding" profile. That requires a further engineer visit to clear.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

The engineer should insist on siting the modem at the master, unless you are using at least CAT5 wiring in your setup.

He will probably want to wall mount it as well, but that isn't compulsory. So you need to make sure he doesn't.

It is a bad idea to do anything with the modem till the end of the day after the day of installation. The DLM at the cabinet is especially sensitive during that period and you might cause it to apply a (low) "banding" profile. That requires a further engineer visit to clear.

Sound advice which I'll heed. I do have cat5e wiring around the house but I'll wait until things have settled down until moving the VDSL modem. I'll also look at getting a fire alarm in the garage where the network patch panel is located, as I've heard the modem gets very hot.

In reply to a post by joconnell:

I'll also look at getting a fire alarm in the garage where the network patch panel is located, as I've heard the modem gets very hot.

The OR VDSL modem doesn't get that hot!! These things are all relative - not aware of any fires started by them!

Fire alarm in garage is a good idea though - irrespective of whether a car or a VDSL modem is in it!

In reply to a post by greenglide:

In reply to a post by joconnell:

I'll also look at getting a fire alarm in the garage where the network patch panel is located, as I've heard the modem gets very hot.

The OR VDSL modem doesn't get that hot!! These things are all relative - not aware of any fires started by them!

Fire alarm in garage is a good idea though - irrespective of whether a car or a VDSL modem is in it!

I was half-joking (forgot to insert smiley)

The only powered piece of kit in the garage is a network switch so if I'm going to add a VSDL modem, I think a smoke or heat alarm will be a good idea

Make sure heat alarm is not triggered by parking a car with a very hot engine in it.

I find the concept of parking a car in the garage most odd

It is many years since I used a garage for this ................

In reply to a post by greenglide:

I find the concept of parking a car in the garage most odd

It is many years since I used a garage for this ................

Yes, mine is full of boxes and stuff we can't put in the attic

Well I now have FTTC though I haven't been able to get it working with my Billion Bipac 7800N router so just using the Plusnet supplied Technicolor router which just worked. I did a speedtest from a laptop over wi-fi and got around 30Mb/s download and 8Mb/s upload which I was fairly okay with, esp. the upload speed which'll make a huge difference to my use of the web/cloud now.

But then I tried the same test over a wired network and got this result

The lappie has 802.11g wi-fi so that's now a bottleneck, albeir one I'm sure I can live with until the laptop gets replaced with a whizzy 802.11n wi-fi model.

Nice result, strange how the upload suffers as well via the wireless link, can understand the download being restricted by the wireless, but surely the upload should still be able to achieve around 17 meg via wireless?

Running Speedtest app on my iPhone whilst stood next to the wireless-n router I get 28Mb/s dl and 18Mb/s upload. As you can see below, the ThinkBroadband speed test over wired ethernet is less optimistic than Speedtest.net

There's been some sort of problem with the upload test on Thinkbroadband for a long time, every body seems to end up with the wrong upload speed, been many a thread on these forums about it.

The flash upload can cope with well in excess of the FTTC/P speeds from open reach.

Java appears to have been nobbled by all its updates of late, and influences of AV suites.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Java appears to have been nobbled by all its updates of late, and influences of AV suites.

But the BT speed test uses Java and reports sensible upload speeds.

Different ways of running the upload.

[cough] So which way is correct, when their way agrees with tbb Flash? [/cough]

In reply to a post by joconnell:

In reply to a post by greenglide:

Yes it is - OR provide the cable.

If you plant to move the modem (or to get the OR installer to place it further away) you should get a "home wiring solution" which is an extension cable.

It is free but needs to be ordered by the ISP from OR. Some ISPs do this automatically.

Thanks

I've got an RJ11 -> RJ45 cable that I made to connect from the ADSL faceplate to a neighbouring network socket, which ends up at a patch panel. In another room a similar cable connects from a network socket to my router, then at the patch panel end I've connected both network sockets together. Works well so I'm hoping I can locate the VDSL modem somewhere out of the way using the same technique.

Well I've allowed it all to settle down and relocated the VSDL modem as described above and it all works perfectly, no reduction in sync speed or performance and one happy missus who couldn't bear te sight of a cream box with green flashing LEDs in the hallway