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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 14-May-13 13:32:48
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New FTTC install


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Hi everyone.

I have just had sky fibre installed this morning after a long long wait.

My estimated speed is 60.7 down and upto 20 up so I went with the sky 40/10 package thinking those speeds would be achievable

Speed tests are floating around the 25 down and 8 up mark. Is there a chance my speed could increase closer to the 40 or is it likely to stay at 25

Thanks for any help
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Tue 14-May-13 13:35:05
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The Sky Hub what speeds does it report for the connection speed?

The authentication filters back the speeds to the router.

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Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Tue 14-May-13 17:55:00
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Connected via wireless, or direct via ethernet ?


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 14-May-13 19:37:20
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Its a wired connection.

The hub shows
Modem Status Connected
DownStream Connection Speed 40001
UpStream Connection Speed 10000

Ive just ran the speed test at http://speedtest.btwholesale.com/
Download speed (Mbps): 14.12
Upload Speed (Mbps) 8.11
Ping Latency(ms): 31.13
Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Tue 14-May-13 21:28:53
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Sounds a little cheeky, but what OS is your machine, and how old is it ?

My crusty old XP machine would never show a download of over 14 meg on FTTC, have had a few other posters on here with similar issues.

Mine was resolved by splashing out on a new desktop !

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/button/13685...

Standard User MHC
(sensei) Tue 14-May-13 21:37:32
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My XP laptop easily takes 60Mbps on my FTTC line and will run for hours at that rate!

On a LAN transfer it can peak at 700 Mbps!

Even my Win98SE Toshiba can do the 60Mbps


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 14-May-13 21:42:03
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I'm running windows 7 and its 3 years old
Standard User simon194
(committed) Tue 14-May-13 21:43:45
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It's possible you are connected to an exchange that suffers from the infamous half-speed download issue.

Sky rolled out a patch last week that was supposed to fix the problem, which it did for some but for others it didn't and in some cases it halved the speed again.
Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Tue 14-May-13 21:59:46
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I didn't say all of 'em ! smile

According to the OP's replies, the sync rate looks OK, could this be congestion at ISP level maybe ?

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 14-May-13 22:57:46
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Because the sky hub is showing a sync of 40/10 does this mean the connection is ok?
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 14-May-13 23:00:12
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Yes. That's what you ordered smile.

The throughput is lousy, and the question to be solved is why smile.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 54.2/15.2Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Standard User jchamier
(knowledge is power) Tue 14-May-13 23:02:27
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In reply to a post by MHC:
My XP laptop easily takes 60Mbps on my FTTC line and will run for hours at that rate!

but XP can easily run on a Pentium 3 @ 500mhz with a 10megabit Ethernet card, and also on a 3rd Gen Core i7 with a 10gigabit Ethernet PCIexpress card. smile


In reply to a post by DanoK:
I'm running windows 7 and its 3 years old


And you could have some malware or strangely performing security software. Or a faulty driver.

But its most likely to be the sky half speed issue. Have a look on the SkyUser forum as well - one post there last year implied that if you were to upgrade to the faster service (£30/m instead of £20/m) that might fix it, but it might not :-/

James BT Infinity 2 19/09/2012 - Speeds 49 / 8.2 Mbps - Sync 53 / 9.5 Mbps @ 470m
Huawei modem -> RT-N66U -> Switch -> PC/Mac/Linux/NAS/Phone/TV - last speedtest
13 years of broadband - 1999 ntl:(512k/1M)/BTbusiness(2M)/Metronet(2M)/Bulldog(8M/16M)/BE(19M/16M)/BT FTTC(46M)
Standard User jchamier
(knowledge is power) Tue 14-May-13 23:04:26
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
The throughput is lousy, and the question to be solved is why smile.

That question has been around a while:

http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/blogs/rammy104/finall...

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1770770

http://www.avforums.com/forums/sky-broadband/1728085...

http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/sky/4174567-new-sky...

James BT Infinity 2 19/09/2012 - Speeds 49 / 8.2 Mbps - Sync 53 / 9.5 Mbps @ 470m
Huawei modem -> RT-N66U -> Switch -> PC/Mac/Linux/NAS/Phone/TV - last speedtest
13 years of broadband - 1999 ntl:(512k/1M)/BTbusiness(2M)/Metronet(2M)/Bulldog(8M/16M)/BE(19M/16M)/BT FTTC(46M)
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 14-May-13 23:56:43
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Trying plugging a PC directly into the modem via ethernet, and follow these instructions to setup a PPPoE connection directly. You will need you sky username/password

Generally Windows 7 fails to connect at the end of the wizard. You will need to then go into start -> Control panel -> network and internet -> network and sharing centre -> change adaptor settings. Right-click on the new connection, and click 'connect'

Re-run the speedtest. If it improves, your router is faulty - request a new one. Otherwise, raise a fault via http://faults.plus.net
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 15-May-13 00:14:21
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In reply to a post by lewisskinner:
Re-run the speedtest. If it improves, your router is faulty - request a new one. Otherwise, raise a fault via http://faults.plus.net


don't you mean report a fault with sky
not plusnet
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 15-May-13 00:27:36
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In reply to a post by Zarjaz:
My crusty old XP machine would never show a download of over 14 meg on FTTC,
Surprising! My XP downloads at 17 Meg on a 20 Meg Sync on ADSL.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC - BQM
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 15-May-13 01:06:23
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In reply to a post by lewisskinner:
... You will need you sky username/password
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Re-run the speedtest. If it improves, your router is faulty - request a new one. Otherwise, raise a fault via http://faults.plus.net
A Sky user and Plusnet faults?

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 54.2/15.2Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 15-May-13 02:13:58
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Good for him! A spot of overtime sorting out Sky faults?!

cheers, a
Standard User jchamier
(knowledge is power) Wed 15-May-13 07:37:04
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In reply to a post by lewisskinner:
Trying plugging a PC directly into the modem via ethernet, and follow these instructions to setup a PPPoE connection directly. You will need you sky username/password


er, technical fail. Sky doesn't use PPPoE and also has a username/password that are hidden inside the Sky provided router (end user cannot see) that are sent to the network using DHCP option 61.

So main problem is finding a PC DHCP client that can issue DHCP requests with option 61, and harder to get the username/password out of the router - unless you're handy with Wireshark :-/

James BT Infinity 2 19/09/2012 - Speeds 49 / 8.2 Mbps - Sync 53 / 9.5 Mbps @ 470m
Huawei modem -> RT-N66U -> Switch -> PC/Mac/Linux/NAS/Phone/TV - last speedtest
13 years of broadband - 1999 ntl:(512k/1M)/BTbusiness(2M)/Metronet(2M)/Bulldog(8M/16M)/BE(19M/16M)/BT FTTC(46M)
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 15-May-13 09:49:23
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Thanks everyone you for the help. Having googled "sky fibre half speed" it certainly looks like this is my issue

Strangely though the speed test on this site shows a 38-40 meg download speed while all others report anything between 12-25 meg crazy
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 15-May-13 12:28:55
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I don't know anything about the Sky half-speed problem, but the tbb speed test uses a non-standard port. Maybe on that port there is no issue smile.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 54.2/15.2Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Standard User nOw2
(newbie) Wed 15-May-13 14:16:35
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If you can get full speed on one speed test but not on another then it's possibly congestion on Sky's network. This is a symptom of what happens when they have problems.

Try again at 7am, if you can get full speed from most speedtest.net servers (as an example) then congestion is the problem.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 15-May-13 14:19:59
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We use two ports

Socket over TCP 8095 and pure HTTP over port 80 too these days.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 15-May-13 17:49:28
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Thanks, I will try some tests early tomorrow morning .

on Sky adsl I never once experienced any speed drop offs, even during peak times. My connection ran at 16 meg at all times

I have opened a help ticket over at sky but reading all the half speed threads over there it seems to a problem that sky know about but are unsure how to fix it
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