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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 14-May-13 19:37:16
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Cabinet In Address Checker - Now What?


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Wondering if anyone has any idea how far a cabinet is along the process of commissioning when it appears in the address checker?

Address STREET SIDE DSLAM CAB NMCEQI, WAGGON ROAD, LEEDS, LS10 4GT on Exchange HUNSLET is served by Cabinet 82

It's not in the ground yet but Openreach estimate this year - that match other people's experiences?

Does the reference indicate that the type of DSLAM needed has been decided and allocated?
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(staff) Tue 14-May-13 19:47:06
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Every line with a cabinet will get that mention, even if the cabinet has no plans.

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(deleted) Tue 14-May-13 19:52:18
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
Every line with a cabinet will get that mention, even if the cabinet has no plans.


You did look at the address, right?


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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Tue 14-May-13 21:45:24
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that was an interesting address. Does the cab have its own postcode too ?

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MaxDSL - goes as fast as it can and doesn't read the line checker first.

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(deleted) Tue 14-May-13 21:51:01
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No, there are several properties in that postcode. I see the cab can't get FTTC.

What's a "NAD Key and District ID"?
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Tue 14-May-13 21:57:02
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It has not been possible to return
data for the given NAD (Name &
Address Database) key
as there is
either no associated DP or there are
multiple DPs linked with it.


FTTPoD perhaps ?

Not seen a cab on the address checker before, and can't reproduce it.

District ID is the first two characters of the exchange ID which make up the MDFSiteID...

A combination of CSS exchange code and
district code e.g. WWNABB.

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Phil

MaxDSL - goes as fast as it can and doesn't read the line checker first.

MaxDSL diagnostics

Edited by yarwell (Tue 14-May-13 22:02:43)

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(deleted) Tue 14-May-13 22:08:44
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I guess you need to know the Postcode a cab is in. Access to the PCP to Postcode data would help https://www.google.com/fusiontables/DataSource?docid...
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Tue 14-May-13 22:15:42
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I couldn't reproduce the example in the OP ?

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MaxDSL - goes as fast as it can and doesn't read the line checker first.

MaxDSL diagnostics
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(staff) Tue 14-May-13 22:17:06
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Nope

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Standard User R0NSKI
(experienced) Tue 14-May-13 22:36:05
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I've seen many a cab listed under a postcode, here's the ones from my local area, just enter the postcode in the address checker.

They often show up before the cabs even installed, so I just presumed once BT had decided to install a cab it was added to their database.


Dslam and PCP come under CT103AF
PCP and Dslam come under CT103AE
Dslam and PCP come under CT102UL
Dslam and PCP come under CT101RB
Dslam CT10 2HJ
Dslam and PCP come under CT102RL
Dslam and PCP come under CT102AQ
Dslam and PCP come under CT102SZ
Dslam and PCP comes under CT101EF
Dslam and PCP come under CT103EX
Dslam and PCP come under CT103DQ
Dslam and PCP come under CT101HG
PCP comes under CT102UP, dslam CT102UU
PCP + DSLAM under CT103BE
Dslam and PCP come under CT102JX
Dslam and PCP come under CT101BA
Dslam CT102PP
Dslam and PCP come under CT101BQ
Postcode CT125HX shows Dslam installed ---- This one is not yet installed
Dslam shows under CT119AL
Dslam shows under CT8 8ET
PCP + Dslam shows under CT88RS
Dslam shows under CT8 8JT
Dslam shows under CT9 5LB

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(deleted) Wed 15-May-13 00:04:19
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I've never seen it before, but I've always tended to use phone numbers in the checker, rather than the address checker.

Looking now, I can see that our existing cab can be found, with a predicted 80/20 speed.

I presume the DSLAMs go into the address listing because they end up with their own phone line - as part of the alarm & monitoring capability for each cab. And knowing the rest of BT's systems, a phone line can't be ordered unless there is an address for it to be registered against.

I guess, therefore, that it is beyond the "vague planning" stages, and into concrete provisioning.
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(deleted) Wed 15-May-13 08:22:41
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Large Huawei. Unlikey to be stood until late summer so looking at sept/oct activation possibly.
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Wed 15-May-13 08:35:00
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I had naively assumed that when building name or number was marked as a required field I had to enter something, now I see it works with postcode alone.

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Phil

MaxDSL - goes as fast as it can and doesn't read the line checker first.

MaxDSL diagnostics
Standard User StephenTodd
(experienced) Wed 15-May-13 08:57:22
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If you already have a BT-like telephone provided over 'ordinary' telephone lines; eg almost any apart from Virgin cable,
you will get a much more reliable result by putting in your telephone number rather than your postcode.

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(deleted) Wed 15-May-13 11:05:19
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In reply to a post by Ribble:
Large Huawei. Unlikey to be stood until late summer so looking at sept/oct activation possibly.


Hi Ribble,

Did you get the info on which cabinet it was from the NM part at the start of the designation or do you have hidden powers?

I did wonder about that as I noted a correlation between NM at the start of the code and big Huawei DSLAMs but assumption makes an ass of you and me.
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(deleted) Wed 15-May-13 12:10:15
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The NM is generic and forms the FTTC cabinet ID. Does not identify the cabinet type.
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(deleted) Wed 15-May-13 12:14:14
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Ours is a large Huawei, code NAAMGW.
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(deleted) Wed 15-May-13 12:18:31
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In reply to a post by Ribble:
The NM is generic and forms the FTTC cabinet ID. Does not identify the cabinet type.


Hidden powers smile

Thanks for the update. I would've been astounded if anything else had been installed given takeup in local area and history behind it.
Standard User tbailey2
(regular) Wed 15-May-13 17:35:11
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In reply to a post by yarwell:
I couldn't reproduce the example in the OP ?

The FTTC cab that appeared at the top of my road a few weeks back has an entry that I found fairly easily by postcode:

STREET SIDE DSLAM CAB NNAHWF, COLLEGE LANE, HURSTPIERPOINT, HASSOCKS, BN6 9AB on Exchange HURSTPIERPOINT is served by Cabinet 4

Talking to a friendly OpenReach guy who was working nearby, he said that the cab has both fibre and power to it, although not running yet, and he thought it wouldn't be too long before it was connected, 200 users max. That is more hopeful than the 'Dec 2014' shown for the FE site data.

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(deleted) Tue 25-Jun-13 18:51:11
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Wandered past this guy today and saw a surveyor deciding where the cabinet would go.

Be interesting to see the timescales from this point on.
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It would be amazing to know the thinking behind some of these decisions.

It appears as though a large Huawei was stood for a cabinet covering 173 premises...

Address STREET SIDE DSLAM CAB NAAQTI, BURGHLEY MEWS, LEEDS, LS10 4TU on Exchange HUNSLET is served by Cabinet 43
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Some markings on pavement showing the usual utilities - red for electricity, blue for water, white for telephony.

No sign of anything on pavement for cabinet, however the guy did say that it was going to be stood in the grass next to the original cabinet.

As there are a lot of questions and comments about timescales I'll keep an eye on this and update as things progress.

The wonderful, talented and beautiful Ribble mentioned that the cabinet was unlikely to be built until 'late summer' however I've been informed it's been marked as 'important' whatever that means, so we'll see how it goes.
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Sadly there have been a few issues here, so this cabinet may struggle to be stood by late summer.

There ducts feeding the cabinet are full, there are no e-sides available to connect people to POTS let alone for a fibre microduct.

It is not possible to dig to deliver more duct capacity as the road this cabinet lives on is awaiting adoption by the local authority and the developer refuse to allow roadworks until it's no longer their problem.

I'm liaising with BT and council to keep all of this as smooth as possible and having my nuts chewed constantly by the local community.
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Just updating this the cabinet is stood though I'm not sure of where it is in the provisioning process.

Hopefully all will go well and it'll be ready to go in the not too distant future.
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(sensei) Sat 23-Nov-13 14:25:39
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Have you made a will?

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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
Have you made a will?


Yep. You aren't in it. Sorry.
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