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Openreach have been putting in tons of cabinets into Oakham recently - even putting cabinets in places that never had them before.
Oakham Telephone Exchange Cab
And I spotted this one tonight, outside the telephone exchange. Now I live about on Dean Street, which is behind where I've taken the photo from, and my telephone line length is 186m - so it's an E/O line.
Is it likely my line will go into that cabinet so I'll be able to get fibre at some stage? As I say, my line is only 186m long to the exchange itself, so I assume I'll get near the top end of 80mbit (I get 22mbit as it is on ADSL2+).
The download speed is not that much of an issue; it's the measly 0.83mbit upload speed I get which is seriously bad.
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Does not look like a FTTC cabinet look at
http://www.trefor.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/ftt...
The fttc cab is 1.4m tall in that picture, the smaller telephone cabinet is what I think you can see.
Now it maybe they are now routing the EO lines via this extra cab with a view to adding FTTC later, or there is a chunk of new build in the area and this is their cabinet.
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Yeah that isn't a FTTC cabinet. The new one is just a normal telephone cab, but it wasn't there before. It's literally only arrived in the last few weeks.
I assume they'll put the FTTC one in where they've made that new black curve, ending at the turf part?
And there isn't any new properties in the proximity to the exchange either. I'll try and ask an Openreach engineer and see if they'll tell me. They're all over the place at the moment - and they've just dug a massive trench in the pavement near the church in Oakham that I assume they'll be doing the same thing; adding a telephone cabinet and then putting a fibre one next to it.
Also the fibre cabinets in Rutland aren't very big at all compared to the massive ones I've seen everywhere else. They look like this - BT Fibre Cab
Edited by deleted (Mon 29-Jul-13 21:55:02)
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Passed through Oakham yesterday and I could only see the standard ECI cabinets installed, same as in Ryhall and North Luffenham
ECI Cab in Ryhall
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Yeah, hopefully at least.
I will be extremely annoyed If they've bothered to get £3m+ for this project in Rutland, delivering FTTC to 97% of the properties, and find out that I won't be one of those 97% because I live 200m from the telephone exchange!
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Also the fibre cabinets in Rutland aren't very big at all compared to the massive ones I've seen everywhere else.
Well, it is the smallest county
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Phil
MaxDSL - goes as fast as it can and doesn't read the line checker first.
MaxDSL diagnostics
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I'm in Oakham too. I'm sure I read on the RCC website that the BDUK funding only covers the smaller villages and that Oakham itself is just being upgraded as part of BT ordinary commercial rollout. I just guessed they didn't like the idea of the villages having fibre and the county town not having it.
Have you tried putting your phone number into the wholesale broadband checker? Since last week my number now shows that FTTC is coming with an estimated 60.3meg. We're served by cabinet 12 on Ashwell Road and the fibre cab was installed back in May. Every time I walk my dog past it I try to listen for any fan noise to indicate that it's working... Pretty sad really lol.
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Ahhh that's fair enough.
Yeah I've tried entering my number (along with another number with an E/O line) and both haven't come up with anything relating to FTTC. But I guess if your cab was installed in May and only last week it started showing up, it'll probably be before November/December before my shows: assuming 1) they install the FTTC cab fairly soon and 2) that box will be for E/O lines in the surrounding area.
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I am on cab 13 too. But whenever i enter my number i get an rfs date of 31-3-2014. I so hope its active before then. My speed estimate is 64.7
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Cab 12 gives the same date. It's just a generic placeholder date. Should be active around September
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Aha thats good news then  ive been looking forward to fibre for such a long time
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What makes you state that you have an EO line?
Been to the BT ADSL checker and put the number in? If your not on EO then it should tell you what the CAB number is, if it is EO it can't and doesn't!
BT Infinity 2 - IP profile 77 / 20 - super fast!
Previously BE Unlimited - 21,000 Download 1,200 Upload but then moved house - 6,500 Down, 1Mb/s up - gutted!
Ex <n>ildram , been to SKY MAX - 15,225 Download
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Yeah I've known for years that I'm on an E/O line. The checker just says Exchange OAKHAM and no cabinet no etc.
Because I live in such close proximity to the telephone exchange, myself and along with a significant amount of houses are on E/O lines. The infrastructure is Oakham is so out of date, I think that's why it's probably cost BT so much to install.
But as I say, that new cabinet has been placed right outside the telephone exchange, so I assume they'll installl a fibre one next to it soon.
There are swarms of Openreach engineers/contractors all over the town at the moment, who are digging up roads/pavements etc to install it all.
Edited by deleted (Tue 30-Jul-13 15:35:58)
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I think Openreach might well be installing that fibre cabinet sooner than I expected. There's about 5 people working outside on the new telephone cab and a 7.5T Openreach lorry unloading a decent amount of equipment in boxes.
I just pray that the cab will be for E/O lines otherwise that's a good 2-3 roads worth of houses that won't be able to get FTTC
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I thought the fibre cabinets came delivered with the dslam etc all pre-installed.
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I dont think the fiber cab will be installed today, although it should be soon.
I believe the work that is happening now is to re-arrange the existing E/O to the new PCP outside the exchange and another new PCP that is planned nearby .
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I just pray that the cab will be for E/O lines otherwise that's a good 2-3 roads worth of houses that won't be able to get FTTC
Your prayers have been answered, see ribbles post above, he's in 'the know'
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Self reply. but i got an email awnser from the nga team today. Cabinet 13 is due to go live at the end of August. So i guess the rest wont be far behind
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Good good. Hope 12 should be about the same so I'll be able to get connected before I go on holiday in September. Just need to decide who to go with
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Thank you for that, Ribble! That's really good to hear!
I'm not sure how quickly Openreach are having to do all this by? I'm not sure if the contract with RCC states that it has to be done by end of 2013, or whether they've got the early part of next year as well.
A picture below is the trench I was referring to yesterday
Openreach works
My line length is also 150-200m long from the house to the exchange, so hopefully, the speeds should also be pretty good! I get 21mbps on ADSL2+ currently, but it's really the upload speed I'm after, as I'm sure many others are!
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looks like there is going to be a new PCP there and the fiber cab next to it
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I thought the fibre cabinets came delivered with the dslam etc all pre-installed.
they do, shipped from China like that. Not sure the line cards are in, but the chassis is.
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Phil
MaxDSL - goes as fast as it can and doesn't read the line checker first.
MaxDSL diagnostics
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looks like there is going to be a new PCP there and the fiber cab next to it
I think it'll "only" be a 288-line FTTC cab (with very smalll works on a nearby footway box - that isn't big enough for an FTTC cab surely?). Not that it matters if that's the case, as the original PCP will have been approved as adequate.
7 ducts (the grey pipes) is definitely a 288-line cab if it is an FTTC cab, probably two ducts (the ones furthest away from us) will be used for the cross-conect with the existing PCP. Looks like thay want to put a node of some kind in the footway box, too.
Edited by deleted (Wed 31-Jul-13 14:32:26)
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That picture shows the works for a new PCP in an existing E/O area. The PCP will be in the foreground and the ECI cabinet will be sited in the background of the photo
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I can tell you that they've installed a PCP cab and a fibre cabinet today where I showed the massive trench they've dug out.
It's the smaller type of fibre cabinet - exactly the same one I've linked below.
Fibre Cab
It's been hammering it down with rain all day, but clearly doesn't stop them from installing this stuff. They even put 2 tents up to do the work! Builders could learn a lot from them!
Edited by deleted (Wed 31-Jul-13 15:29:56)
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Wow... my mistake, I thought the smaller trench/hole looked too square to be an FTTC cab (and had too few ducts). Anyway, carry on, nothing to see here.
Edited by deleted (Wed 31-Jul-13 16:44:42)
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Just walked past our cabinet (number 12 on Ashwell Road) and I could hear the fans whirring. Can't be long to go now.... although the checker is still saying March 2014. I've got a feeling it'll suddenly change from that to "Available"
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I noticied Cabinet 13 seems to humming too now and it got the fibre sticker today. But no change on the checker yet
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Things looks like they're progressing pretty well. They've moved me over from an E/O telephone line to 'Cabinet 25' now, which is placed right outside the exchange. The FTTC cabinet is also standing there as well now. So I hope that it won't be too long until it's all up and running.
The FTTC cabinet has probably been there 2-3 weeks now, and there isn't any fan noise coming from the cabinet. I'm pretty sure they've not got any power going to it yet - which might have been why they were digging up the pavement earlier this week. Although there are these green markings drawn on the ground which cross the road outside the exchange, which I'm not sure what they mean/stand for:
http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/6056/h76u.jpg
This is the FTTC cab in place:
http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/3323/37ph.jpg
"Telephone Number 01572xxxxxx on Exchange OAKHAM is served by Cabinet 25"
Openreach have also been digging up the pavement and putting in some cable; not sure what type though.
Interesting stuff, and I can't wait until I get FTTC!
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As of Friday morning the checker is now saying fibre is available to order. The cabinet now has a "Fibre broadband is here" poster on it too. I'm told others around town do as well.
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Hmm cabinet 13 is still saying not yet avaible. Hopefully next week it will go live
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Ok so i double checked today. Sticker on cabinet and lots of fan noise so its got a heart beat so to speak. Just still says avaible next year. but hoping for the checker updates soon
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Give it a couple of days and if it's still the same maybe contact them. I've just checked my grandparents number. They're on cabinet 5 and that's also showing as available. They don't even have a computer though haha
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It's weird. There's a cab at the end of Land's End Way in Oakham that last Friday had a sticker on it. I walked past it today and the sticker has gone?
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I drove past that one earlier and saw there was no sticker. Didn't know it had one before though. Probably been ripped off by some drunken idiot. Or maybe someone didn't like the look of it. You know how people in Oakham can be.
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I think I have this problem... The first sticker was removed almost completely and the second (current) one has been like this for about a year. Clearly someone doesn't like it...
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Hmm getting slightly concerned now. Still not able to order and nor is my neighbour so at least i know its not only my line
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You can get "iber roadband" here !!!
I am not very technical so its obviously something I need to google
IanD
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Cab 13 went live today  fibre being installed on the 12th september
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That's good news!
My service has been moved to a cabinet from E/O and according to Openreach:
"Yes your service has been moved onto the new cabinet 25 and is due to be fibre live between Sep �Oct 2013"
Fair play to Openreach in that they've been moving at some serious pace to get this all installed. Installing a PCP box, transfering 288 phone lines to the box and then installing the FTTC cab next to it within the space of 6-8 weeks is pretty good going in my mind.
But hooray that I will be able to get fibre soon!
Edited by deleted (Thu 05-Sep-13 14:24:20)
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Yeah its good news
I also think its awesome they're moving the E/O lines too that cant be an easy task and the pace they have been going at as you say is quite amazing.
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You can get "iber roadband" here !!!
I am not very technical so its obviously something I need to google
According to spell check it is " ibre roadband"
I assume the CAB isn't in USA?
BT Infinity 2 - IP profile 77 / 20 - super fast!
Previously BE Unlimited - 21,000 Download 1,200 Upload but then moved house - 6,500 Down, 1Mb/s up - gutted!
Ex <n>ildram , been to SKY MAX - 15,225 Download
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You can get "iber roadband" here !!!
I am not very technical so its obviously something I need to google
The picture states "ibre roadband s here"
What a mystery indeed.... why tear a poster to spell such rubbish.. :-/
CJT.
On Talk Talk Essentials
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Good to hear. I've not ordered yet. Got to drill some holes and run some cat5e around the house so I can still have my router in another room but still have the VDSL modem at the master socket
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Anyone heard of any progress on this cabinet?
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Cabinet 13 ?
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Sorry no, cabinet 25.
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The latest I heard from the NGA team regarding Cabinet 25, which I'm also connected to, was that it would be going live in September/October 2013.
I'm hopeful that this is the case, because if I input my telephone number into the BT ADSL Checker, it doesn't mention any FTTC speeds or RFS date for it at all. Just ADSL2+.
Hopefully some more information will come to light soon.
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The latest I heard from the NGA team regarding Cabinet 25, which I'm also connected to, was that it would be going live in September/October 2013.
I'm hopeful that this is the case, because if I input my telephone number into the BT ADSL Checker, it doesn't mention any FTTC speeds or RFS date for it at all. Just ADSL2+.
Hopefully some more information will come to light soon.
If your BT ADSL Checker didn't put any date for FTTC available soon, u won't get it. Only ADSL2+
plusnetADSL2+16 Meg
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If your BT ADSL Checker didn't put any date for FTTC available soon, u won't get it. Only ADSL2+ That statement is completely wrong!
The lack of an estimate has absolutely no relevance to whether FTTC or FTTP is going be available at a future date, I've seen estimates appear before the cabinet is even installed, equally I've not had estimates until many month's after the cabinet has been installed. And in both cases estimates seem to appear and disappear without any reason, only to come back later.
Edited by R0NSKI (Mon 23-Sep-13 15:39:18)
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That statement is completely wrong!
That's what I been told by plusnet
plusnetADSL2+16 Meg
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I've had Openreach's NGA team confirm I'm getting FTTC, along with everyone else on Cabinet 25 and Cabinet 26, with the date being set for September/October 2013, so I know that I'll receive it fairly shortly.
They've just moved all the E/O lines to a new PCP and installed a FTTC cabinet next to it; which must have cost them at least £30k to do just for the equipment. So OR don't going around spending tens of thousands of pounds on things that'll never come to fruition  .
I've decided the BT ADSL Checker is pretty dire at being updated, although it does now say I'm on Cabinet 25, which is the new PCP/FTTC combo outside the telephone exchange.
Edited by deleted (Mon 23-Sep-13 17:21:20)
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it is now a wait and see.
Start planning for the FTTC service late Nov, early Dec. Or ask for a Christmas present
IanD
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I can assure you what they told you is wrong. I've spent 18 month's monitoring all our local cabs.
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If your BT ADSL Checker didn't put any date for FTTC available soon, u won't get it. Only ADSL2+
Bummer. The FTTC cab going up in a nearby street won't be getting FTTC.
BT BROADBAND AVAILABILITY CHECKER
Address STREET SIDE DSLAM CAB NMCEQI, WAGGON ROAD, LEEDS, LS10 4GT on Exchange HUNSLET is served by Cabinet 82
WBC ADSL 2+ Up to 1 -- 1 to 3 Available
ADSL Max Up to 0.75 -- 0.75 to 2.5 Available
WBC Fixed Rate 0.5 -- -- Available
Fixed Rate 0.5 -- -- Available
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My cabinet is alive! I can hear the fans humming away from the cabinet, so it's definitely got power to it now.
That's only happened within the last few weeks. I suspect it was when they concreted the FTTC cabinet into a plinth in the ground, and then made the earth/soil around the area all neat and tidy.
Still no speed estimates, but it's apparent that this will go live fairly soon.
Hopefully Openreach were right about September/October 2013 live date!
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You now just need to start thinking about which ISP you are going to use  . From where you are now it took about 3 weeks for my cabinet to become live on the BT checkers and then another week on the sky checker. I ordered from SKY in the end. Best of luck, it is a slightly different experience, especially if you have 4-5 people using the service at the same time. For me, we are low volume users, so moving from 6M to 40M did not look to make much difference, except that we do not get any slow down at all now.
IanD
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Sounds good to me.
I've just got a response back from the NGA team at Openreach who have said:
" just waiting for the commissioning to be completed due in about 2-4weeks"
So hopefully end of October I should have FTTC, or at least be able to order it!
The only thing that is slightly puzzling is that I've not got any speed estimates yet for FTTC.
Edit: Just got another response regarding the speed estimates:
"That is due to your services being moved to a different cabinet, the broadband checker is not run by us but by BT Wholesale who are a bit behind with updating things."
Edited by deleted (Thu 26-Sep-13 13:57:56)
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how far are you from the new cabinet. Say you were to walk there following your best guess of the route of your bt line under the ground. I am about 3-4 mins away and get > 40m as that is all I buy. I am told I can get 80m (from the engineers test device). Those 10mins away get 30 to 50m in reality.
IanD
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My line is around 200m from the cabinet.
Well actually, my line from my house to the exchange is 200m so I guess the cabinet could be closer as it's outside the exchange.
I get 21mbit download and 0.83mbit upload. The upload is just awful.
I hope to get at least 70mbit down and 20mbit upload, hopefully.
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if they have added a new cabinet outside the exchange then you will get the max  . Its just a case of wait & wait & wait until the day arrives. Once you are on FTTC you will not look back. Let us all know the speed you get once connected.
IanD
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Simple question - if the BT DSLChecker website is slow to show the actual availability of fibre for a number/cabinet, which is the best way to check?
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only by asking the BT team. There is an email address floating around on these boards, where people have been able to get an estimate or a "its not currently planned". As I understand it , if its not currently planned, then it will not be happening unless there is a roll out take 2.
IanD
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Cheers - I'll have a hunt around for the email that you mentioned. We're connected to cabinet 25 which should be going live pretty soonish but wanted to make sure I wasn't waiting for the DSLChecker website to update when the cabinet was active (I'm inpatient!).
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if you have had building work done for the new cabinet, then its sometime between now and the end of qtr1 2014... It may be a good Christmas present to yourself
IanD
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Clearly someone doesn't like it... It would seem that the government doesn't like it... came across this whilst looking for something else.
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It's live!!!
WBC FTTC Up to 80 Up to 20 -- Available
WBC ADSL 2+ Up to 20.5 -- 19 to 22.5 Available
WBC ADSL 2+ Annex M Up to 20.5 Up to 1.5 19 to 22.5 Available
ADSL Max Up to 8 -- 7 to 8 Available
WBC Fixed Rate 2 -- -- Available
Fixed Rate 2 -- -- Available
Other Offerings
Fibre Multicast -- -- -- Available
BT Infinity
Edited by deleted (Sat 26-Oct-13 02:23:08)
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 YoHoHo Christmas....
IanD
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