Oh my god, this thread in particular makes me hate the fact the marketing department call fttc "fibre" broadband.
Right up there with at&t in America pressuring the standards body to allow them to call dc-hspa 4G.
For goodness sake, terminology is important, it's what allows us to distinguish things in this crazy complicated world.
It makes me wonder what they'll call fttp, is that superfibre? Like what the?

and i seen loads of wires in there.

Well that doesn't sound at all fibrey now, does it !

Amen!

"Superfast" is just as bad. "Next generation" sounds just as fancy in a marketing sense and is more accurate. Ofcom should have made providers use that IMO.

In reply to a post by bgriffiths:

In reply to a post by Rastus:

The giveaway at this early stage will be if there is a length of fibre tubing coiled up at the base of the pole waiting for the next team to come and run it up the pole and fit the manifold.

..or a blue "towrope" tied round the base of the pole and feeding down into a hole, leading to the distribution point, ready to pull the fibre tubing through and up to the manifold

Perhaps a slim chance, but the rope could be there to pull a new copper cable through

Plus, in my experience the manifold won't be there to pull the tubing up to as they're not fitted until the tubing is run up the pole.

Edited by Rastus (Sun 09-Mar-14 01:35:29)

If you have adsl next generation is adsl2+ So not any better as a term

But ADSL2+ never had the tag "superfast" applied to it in the way fibre-based services have.

Hi,

Many areas in Milton Keynes have been waiting since 2011. There has been multiple false starts in many areas.

Anyway, we have some movement. BT completed an industrial estate (Brinklow) in the south east of Milton Keynes in December - a few warehouse. Why.... No idea!

I've been waiting for about 2-3 years. We had all the ducting installed in early summer last year, but, we don't have PONS or manifolds. The installation is all underground. We've had confirmation that would see something by July but we'd had this before - the only difference now is that they've done the industrial estate. We think BT started deployment in my estate but had a duct issue - they've had several. A neighbour found a BT engineer trying to blow fibre down a tube but he admitted he was pulling it out again as it was kinking. Apparently, they are trying higher density fibre tubing and a different fibre manufacturer. The manifolds and PONS could also be a different manufacturer. The Exchange is ECI for FTTC Both my estate and the industrial estate are on Woburn Sands Exchange. FTTP on the Exchange has been referred to as trial on multiple occasions. A trial of what we don't know. The two areas are the last commercial areas on the Exchange. XGPON???

In other parts of MK connected to the Bradwell Abbey Exchange there are large areas within the FTTP trial area which have no FTTP. BT has designated these as commercial (not BDUK) but they contain a large number MDU premises. There is a hint that BT will be trialing FTTDP in the area as it requires very little additional work - despite what people tell you!

I get the impression the trial of FTTP to MDU's was successful (as that was done in Broughton Milton Keynes), but the large brown field trial is a complete failure. BT are now going to move forward with FTTDP. So, in FTTP areas they will deploy now but will skip MDU's and infill with FTTPDP later. The work in MK wouldn't be that extensive. This goes someway to explain why BT have been so slow to deploy FTTP.

I'd not be surprised if that later BDUK areas are FTTPDP instead of FTTP.

Regards,


Gareth