Fibre Installed - ECI Modem

Id like to get the stats from this modem but its looking like I need to get some kit to unlock it?

All the pages/info I am getting from Google is 1+ year old.

Is there a better way to unlock it or should I just grab a HG Modem from eBay when I can?

Just grab a HG, there are two variants of the ECI modem and while I can talk to it over the serial and see some data I lost patience to figure out which of the many commands online actually worked.

Getting a HG then.

Speeds are nice

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/button/13983...

Sig and profile updates needed .

In reply to a post by Seansmit17:

Getting a HG then.

Speeds are nice

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/button/13983...

Speed nice, ISP ????

Talk Talk.

Getting a HG gets my vote as well, using the latest unlocked firmware I actually sync a little higher than the ECI (not that it looks like it will make a difference with your connection as it looks like you will max out)

In reply to a post by Seansmit17:

Talk Talk.

Was not actually a question ... it is on the Graph. It was wondering if your choice of ISP is as good as the speedtest!

If it was not a question, what are the "????" for?

Also,

Been with TT since 25th of August 2012 and not had any noteworthy issues at all.

Hello,

Are openreach not using the HG modems anymore or is it the luck of the draw?

Thanks
Sam

I think its down to what cab you have. If its an ECI cab you get an ECI modem etc..

I could be wrong though!

Luck of the draw these days

In reply to a post by MHC:

In reply to a post by Seansmit17:

Talk Talk.

Was not actually a question ... it is on the Graph. It was wondering if your choice of ISP is as good as the speedtest!

In my experience (second-hand from my Dad) when their service is working it works well. The only problems he ever had were with their customer service which was diabolical. Including the infamous time when they accepted new customers on their newly released LLU service without offering it to existing customers first then started charging existing customers extra for staying on BTw.

Hopefully the OP will not need to contact their CS department.

Edited by Andrue (Fri 25-Apr-14 13:42:32)

I have rang them a few times.. and 9 times out of 10 the 1st person I speak to is about as much use as a chocolate tea pot, its been the 2nd person I speak to thats got stuff done.

Just proves 1st line support are useless.

Well i recently moved from TT residential to TT business primarily to get a static ip on fibre but the difference in phone support is breathtaking. They are based in Warrington, pick up the phone in a few rings (ala First Direct) unlike Yorkshire's finest ISP and their technical team actually know what they're talking about. They cost more than the residential arm (though you do get higher network priority at the exchange), i'm paying £48 a month for the 80/20 fibre service + line rental + unlimited landline/mobile calls. Obviously you need to have a business to order their service...cough cough splutter

Their online chat support team are also very good as well:
http://www.trustpilot.co.uk/review/talktalkbusiness....

Edited by deleted (Fri 25-Apr-14 15:25:40)

Just won this on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item...

Bargin since most were going for near £30 or more in some cases!

It was probably cheaper because it's the 2B version, which is not a problem, just make sure that it's well ventilated, they used to run a bit toasty. As far as I'm aware the newer firmware is OK on them. The newer models are 3B and have a white transformer.

demand has gone up? 3b used to be under £10 on buy it now.

Right, Got my HG612 Modem this morning.

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Welcome Visiting Huawei  Home Gateway Copyright by Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd.Login:admin Password:ATP>sh    BusyBox v1.9.1 (2010-10-15 17:59:06 CST) built-in shell (ash)Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.  # ls var      tmp      proc     linuxrc  etc      binusr      sbin     mnt      lib      dev      BTAgent # xdslcmd info --statexdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status Status: ShowtimeRetrain Reason: 0 Max:    Upstream rate = 37399 Kbps, Downstream rate = 109464 KbpsPath:   0, Upstream rate = 19999 Kbps, Downstream rate = 79999 Kbps  # xdslcmd info --pbParams xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY statusStatus: Showtime Retrain Reason: 0Max:    Upstream rate = 37399 Kbps, Downstream rate = 109236 Kbps Path:   0, Upstream rate = 19999 Kbps, Downstream rate = 79999 Kbps  Discovery Phase (Initial) Band PlanUS: (0,95) (868,1207) (1972,2783) DS: (32,859) (1216,1963) (2792,3971)Medley Phase (Final) Band Plan US: (0,95) (868,1207) (1972,2783)DS: (32,859) (1216,1963) (2792,3971)        VDSL Port Details       Upstream        DownstreamAttainable Net Data Rate:      37399 kbps        109236 kbps Actual Aggregate Tx Power:        6.6 dBm          13.5 dBm============================================================================   VDSL Band Status        U0      U1      U2      U3      D1      D2      D3  Line Attenuation(dB):  3.6     18.5    26.8     N/A    9.9     22.1    33.7  Signal Attenuation(dB):  3.6     17.8    25.9     N/A    9.9     22.1    33.7          SNR Margin(dB):  25.1    23.2    23.5     N/A    14.1    14.1    14.1           TX Power(dBm): -7.6    -27.1    6.5      N/A    10.4    7.9     7.0  #

So there are my stats.. Im trying to get that HG stats program to work but it just says N/A for all the connection info... IP and pass is set correctly so I dont know why its not working.

Max sync, plenty of SNRM, I find DSLStats an easier solution.

You should ask TalkTalk to upgrade you to their 110/40 meg service

On a serious note why can't the modem sync at the full 80000/20000 kbps instead of 79999/19999 kbps?

How does one tell if interleaving is on or off?

Basically by examining the "D:" line in the output from xdslcmd info --stats

"1" is Fast Path in that direction. Any other number shows the degree of interleaving.

On FTTC it isn't quite that simple, as there can be error correction and latency delay parameters set even without interleaving.

Edit - also see this post.

Edited by RobertoS (Tue 13-May-14 14:49:50)

In reply to a post by Seansmit17:

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# xdslcmd info --state xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY statusStatus: Showtime Retrain Reason: 0Max:    Upstream rate = 37399 Kbps, Downstream rate = 109464 Kbps Path:   0, Upstream rate = 19999 Kbps, Downstream rate = 79999 Kbps  # xdslcmd info --pbParamsxdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status Status: ShowtimeRetrain Reason: 0 Max:    Upstream rate = 37399 Kbps, Downstream rate = 109236 KbpsPath:   0, Upstream rate = 19999 Kbps, Downstream rate = 79999 Kbps  Discovery Phase (Initial) Band Plan US: (0,95) (868,1207) (1972,2783)DS: (32,859) (1216,1963) (2792,3971) Medley Phase (Final) Band PlanUS: (0,95) (868,1207) (1972,2783) DS: (32,859) (1216,1963) (2792,3971)       VDSL Port Details       Upstream        Downstream Attainable Net Data Rate:      37399 kbps        109236 kbpsActual Aggregate Tx Power:        6.6 dBm          13.5 dBm ============================================================================  VDSL Band Status        U0      U1      U2      U3      D1      D2      D3   Line Attenuation(dB):  3.6     18.5    26.8     N/A    9.9     22.1    33.7  Signal Attenuation(dB):  3.6     17.8    25.9     N/A    9.9     22.1    33.7          SNR Margin(dB):  25.1    23.2    23.5     N/A    14.1    14.1    14.1           TX Power(dBm): -7.6    -27.1    6.5      N/A    10.4    7.9     7.0  #

Well its been one month on FTTC. Lets see how my stats are one month on:

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# xdslcmd info --pbParams xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY statusStatus: Showtime Retrain Reason: 0Max:    Upstream rate = 36472 Kbps, Downstream rate = 106348 Kbps Path:   0, Upstream rate = 19999 Kbps, Downstream rate = 79999 Kbps  Discovery Phase (Initial) Band PlanUS: (0,95) (868,1207) (1972,2783) DS: (32,859) (1216,1963) (2792,3971)Medley Phase (Final) Band Plan US: (0,95) (868,1207) (1972,2783)DS: (32,859) (1216,1963) (2792,3971)        VDSL Port Details       Upstream        DownstreamAttainable Net Data Rate:      36472 kbps        106348 kbps Actual Aggregate Tx Power:        6.6 dBm          13.4 dBm============================================================================   VDSL Band Status        U0      U1      U2      U3      D1      D2      D3  Line Attenuation(dB):  3.6     18.6    27.0     N/A    9.9     22.3    33.9  Signal Attenuation(dB):  3.6     17.8    26.2     N/A    9.9     22.3    33.9          SNR Margin(dB):  23.2    23.3    23.3     N/A    13.2    13.2    13.4           TX Power(dBm): -7.2    -26.2    6.5      N/A    10.4    7.8     7.0

So stats are almost the same. Lost a little bit of the max attainable. Looks like more people getting FTTC.

Speeds have been a constant 75mb down and 17-18mb up.

Happy days!

Also, as asked, why do I connect at 79999/19999 and not 80000/20000 ?

Edited by Seansmit17 (Wed 21-May-14 19:41:00)

In reply to a post by Seansmit17:

Also, as asked, why do I connect at 79999/19999 and not 80000/20000 ?

I think it's to do with the way the bits are spread out in the bands, each band can only carry a given amount of bits.

Noticed something today.

My attainable rate has been dropping at a steady pace as other ppl jump on the FTTC band wagon.

I was at 109mb to start with and down to 103mb and upload was at 36mb and then down to 32mb at last check 2 days ago.

and today I see this:

Attainable rate (kbit/s) 98788 40912
SNR margin (dB) 11.2 15.2
Line attenuation (dB) 0 0
Output power (dBmV) 13.3 6.7

Download has took a dive down a few mb and the upload has gone up!

What could explain this?

My download/upload connection is still at 80/20 so no issue there.

Gave the modem a reboot and got this.

Attainable rate (kbit/s) 98832 33656
SNR margin (dB) 11.2 15.3
Line attenuation (dB) 0 0
Output power (dBmV) 13.4 6.7

Odd that my upload would jump like that?

Edited by Seansmit17 (Tue 24-Jun-14 18:45:53)