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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 30-May-14 23:49:19
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BT Hub on Sky FTTC


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Is it possible to use the huawei modem and HH4 on a Sky fibre line???? I have today switched from Infinity to Sky (to save money) but have noticed how poor the Sky SR102 actually is.....
My speed has actually increased so no complaints there but the wifi is very poor and streaming .mpg files through it from a laptop to my Xbox360 is impossible..(will play but the picture stutters when the bitrate is high and is connected through Ethernet not wifi)
Rather than me buying a new router or even a WDTV to play movies I was hoping I could to go back to the HH4 as I never once had a problem with streaming 720p movies....
Any help appreciated.....
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Sat 31-May-14 01:18:37
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What speeds are you actually getting ?

For a picture to stutter the line must be running at well under 10Mbps


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Standard User mlmclaren
(member) Sat 31-May-14 02:02:57
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I do believe that the problem is regarding the transfer rate from his laptop through the Sky Hub to the XBOX and unrelated to his actual DSL Line.


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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 31-May-14 07:59:48
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Re: BT Hub on Sky FTTC


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In reply to a post by stubert:
Is it possible to use the huawei modem and HH4 on a Sky fibre line???? I have today switched from Infinity to Sky (to save money) but have noticed how poor the Sky SR102 actually is.....

The main issues with the SR102 are WiFi - ethernet should be fine. Have you tried any speed tests? What speed does the SR102 think you are connected at?

James BT Infinity 2 19/09/2012 - Sold 42/6, Now 52/9, Sync @ 55 / 9.5 Mbps @ 470m approx
19/5/2014 - just ordered PlusNet Unlimited Fibre - awaiting activation date
15 years broadband (1999 ntl:cablemodem trialist) - Router: Asus RT-AC68U (merlin) - Modem: HG612 unlocked Typical BT speedtest
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 31-May-14 09:43:19
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Buy yourself a gigabit switch
Connect the router to the switch and connect everything else via the switch, the sr102 is only 100mbits, which in itself should be enough, I have a similar setup and can quite easily stream multiple hd files from a mac onto multiple apple tvs my sr102 only acts as a dhcp server and it's wifi is supplemented by additional access points around the house.
You may well find that your cabling doesn't even support 100mbit, poor cabling will result in it falling back to 10mbit mode
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(deleted) Sat 31-May-14 09:49:30
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I don't think it will work, the HH4 is locked to BT (and maybe Plusnet). They do an unlocked version which I think is the HH4r but you probably don't have one of those.

You can unlock the Huawei modem and use that as a combined modem/router which should work and then use the HH4 as an access point as another option, or just use the HH4 as an access point to the SR102 as the previous poster said.
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(deleted) Sat 31-May-14 11:50:01
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Connected at 100mbits through Ethernet....
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 31-May-14 12:17:50
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All working fine now!!
Tried it again this morning (streaming) and the stuttering was still present, unplugged all the ethernets from behind the router and connected them back into different ports and now the stuttering has gone????
Very strange, even tried a 1080p on it just now and that streams fine!!!!
As for the wifi I can live with that for now as I can always get myself a wifi extender if needed...

Thanks for the suggestions all......
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(deleted) Sat 31-May-14 12:32:47
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I wouldn't expect your speed to remain higher than Infinity. You are connected to the same cabinet and it is the Openreach fibre cabinet that is negotiating the sync speed, nothing to do with Sky. It's probably just because it is a new provide and the DLM has been recalculated.
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(deleted) Sat 31-May-14 13:06:51
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Yes, I had an attainable of around 43meg with BT and synched at around 40meg when first installed about two and half years ago. This slowly crept down to 29meg over time due to DLM / crosstalk etc. with sky I now get 40meg again with a snr of 6.5db so I am expecting this to stay around this mark now... Line has been stable for 24hrs now, done a lot of gaming, downloaded maybe 40gig and still going good....
I have taught the wife that the router must not be unplugged at night to which I think was the initial cause of my speed drop!!!! wink
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(deleted) Sat 31-May-14 13:09:45
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Off subject here, but is there any demand for an unlocked huawei modem and HH4. No point in keeping them so was going to put them on gumtree to sell.. Any ideas what their worth second hand????
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(deleted) Sat 31-May-14 13:29:06
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Modem about 20-40 quid, HH4 about a tenner. Have a look on ebay.
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(deleted) Sat 31-May-14 13:33:15
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Thanks, will take a look...
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 31-May-14 19:49:41
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In reply to a post by Icaras:
I wouldn't expect your speed to remain higher than Infinity. You are connected to the same cabinet and it is the Openreach fibre cabinet that is negotiating the sync speed, nothing to do with Sky. It's probably just because it is a new provide and the DLM has been recalculated.

Slightly less overhead as Sky don't use PPPoE I believe.

James BT Infinity 2 19/09/2012 - Sold 42/6, Now 52/9, Sync @ 55 / 9.5 Mbps @ 470m approx
19/5/2014 - just ordered PlusNet Unlimited Fibre - awaiting activation date
15 years broadband (1999 ntl:cablemodem trialist) - Router: Asus RT-AC68U (merlin) - Modem: HG612 unlocked Typical BT speedtest
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(deleted) Sun 01-Jun-14 11:03:20
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In reply to a post by stubert:
Yes, I had an attainable of around 43meg with BT and synched at around 40meg when first installed about two and half years ago. This slowly crept down to 29meg over time due to DLM / crosstalk etc. with sky I now get 40meg again with a snr of 6.5db so I am expecting this to stay around this mark now... Line has been stable for 24hrs now, done a lot of gaming, downloaded maybe 40gig and still going good....
I have taught the wife that the router must not be unplugged at night to which I think was the initial cause of my speed drop!!!! wink


Do you understand what I'm saying though? Oh a fibre to the cabinet connection your sync speed is nothing to do with Sky!
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(deleted) Sun 01-Jun-14 11:05:21
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That's not got anything to do with sync speed. The Openreach DSLAM in the cabinet negotiates the sync speed and they have full control over it. It only passes on to Sky's network at the headend. I'm not talking about throughput.
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(deleted) Sun 01-Jun-14 11:40:23
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The SR102 is a modem
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(deleted) Sun 01-Jun-14 13:03:29
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Of cause, just nice to see a faster speed now as it had dropped quite a bit over the last two years, probably due to the modem being turned off regularly resulting in DLM thinking the line was unstable...
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(deleted) Sun 01-Jun-14 17:33:54
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Nice one, as you say hopefully now it'll be kept on all the time now.

I do hope you don't see any of that dreaded Sky backhaul congestion that I'm seeing an awful lot of now on their fibre connections. Throughput of 20Mb with a sync speed of 40Mb, awful.
Standard User simon194
(experienced) Mon 02-Jun-14 01:12:15
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That's nothing. At the height of the congestion problem with Sky in my area I was getting 10Kbps download with a 4s pings on a line syncing at 75 Mbps.
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(deleted) Mon 02-Jun-14 18:50:17
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Indeed, but that was months ago, wouldn't you have thought they'd have sorted it by now. There's some headends in my area that they just can't seem to get on top of. You just don't see these problems with other ISPs at the moment. BT Infinity generally performs at the sync speed regards of the time of day.
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