New capacity / 2nd cabinet dates - placeholders?

Our unviable area appears to have filled up its' first Huawei 288.

The availability checker is claiming that there will be capacity again by 30th July. I suspect this is a placeholder date as I'm 90% sure that an entirely new cabinet is required to provide further capacity.

Confirm / deny re: placeholders anyone?

Thanks.

It most likely wasn't commissioned with a full complement of cards (probably enough for 96 lines maybe) so that will be the date by when extra card(s)/tie-ins will be installed.

simon it will be full -- know thins one Well !!!!

Don't think cab was due to be stood until September, could be done sooner though.

In reply to a post by simon194:

It most likely wasn't commissioned with a full complement of cards (probably enough for 96 lines maybe) so that will be the date by when extra card(s)/tie-ins will be installed.

It was commissioned with 48 ports, a single card, which sold out the day it went live. As did the second card installed the following week.

3rd and 4th lasted another 2 months, 5th and I guess 6th another 3.

In reply to a post by Fastman2:

simon it will be full -- know thins one Well !!!!

*Snigger* You know exactly what I'm talking about without my needing to mention it. Gotta love that.

In reply to a post by Ribble:

Don't think cab was due to be stood until September, could be done sooner though.

Matching pair. How cute.

Okay confirmed that that date is a placeholder, in a similar manner to other 'capacity' relief dates.

>60% take-up, 2nd FTTC build upcoming, extra hardware upgrades needed for node level vectoring to do it anything like right, area fully pre-ducted per guidelines with swept tees feeding properties, LLU-heavy so plenty of Wholesale upside, no VM cable, anyone would think FTTP might have been a good idea.

Edited by deleted (Tue 08-Jul-14 00:46:50)

In reply to a post by Ignitionnet:

anyone would think FTTP might have been a good idea

I might be wrong, but I think the swept-tee's are only any good if there is also a draw rope running through it.

The current Openreach requirements ask for both a draw rope for the copper and pre-installed blown-fibre tubing running from the joint box to each home.

For greenfield perhaps, not likely to be found in brownfield.

That said Openreach have been up to something around here, probably business as usual, a guy opened the 4 inspection covers around here and was up to something, be it just looking or working.

This was accurate. The date on the availability checker was pushed back to 20th August, there are no streetworks on the register for a second cabinet to be constructed so it seems fair to presume that's also a placeholder and another date will appear on there in a couple of days.

The cabinet itself is planned, it's STREET SIDE DSLAM CAB NMCOZU and will set alongside NMCEQI. No markings on the pavement just yet either so presumably it's still a little way away or they'll be able to reuse bits from the original build when standing the second one.

I susspect the availability date may reflect an attempt to bring into service existing 'faulty ports' rather than the installation of the additional cabinet

In reply to a post by Ribble:

I susspect the availability date may reflect an attempt to bring into service existing 'faulty ports' rather than the installation of the additional cabinet

I strongly suspect your suspicions are right, ports have become available.

They won't stay available for long however - someone has already informed the local community that the cabinet is available again.

In reply to a post by Ribble:

I susspect the availability date may reflect an attempt to bring into service existing 'faulty ports' rather than the installation of the additional cabinet

All gone but effort appreciated!

@ Ribble my friend want to know why this cabinet delaying until Dec 31st 2014 as the cabinet stood up since December 2013.

TF7 4BN on Exchange CUCKOO OAK is served by Cabinet 14

FTTC Range A (Clean) 80 80 20 20 -- 31-Dec-14
FTTC Range B (Impacted) 80 63.2 20 10.8 -- 31-Dec-14

Edited by adslmax (Thu 21-Aug-14 12:46:50)

In reply to a post by Ribble:

Don't think cab was due to be stood until September, could be done sooner though.

Or later. Still no street works for this.

Apparently planning will be complicated and it'll be expensive to build.

Should've used the ducting, it was built with everything bar the microduct, and deployed FTTP to deal with the demand. Appreciate it's only Leeds, not Milton Keynes, but still probably easier build than some and certainly not all that much more expensive than 2 x FTTC cabinets at 'allegedly' £100k each.

In reply to a post by Fastman2:

simon it will be full -- know thins one Well !!!!

Indeed. So, I wonder if there's any chance of another cabinet so that people around here can give their ISPs more money which in turn flows to Openreach?

Joys of being the only game in town - really no need to rush.

I know things happen but I actually told Openreach in 2013 that the first cabinet would fill rapidly and I'd be amazed if it weren't full by the end of the school year. I think the response was initially shock when the first 48 ports lasted less than a day, the next 48 about the same and I was told that 4 cards would be enough.

I wasn't blowing sunshine up anyone's [censored] or bigging myself and the community here up.

All been a bit of a mess before, during and after the process. From before it was on the rollout list to now it's full this has been a pain in the backside. I seriously hope the other tens of thousands were smoother.

Closing this off, had a conversation with 'someone' in BT over a vaguely related matter early this month and he said he'd chase this up as an aside.

(PCP82), NGA RELATED WORKS, (PCP82) 430980,427759 SIDE OF 34 WAGGON ROAD ST GEORGES ROAD LEEDS WEST YORKSHIRE LS10 4GT

Description:
Install 2m of 1 way poly duct in Footway,Provide 1 Provide/Recover 1 NGA Cab and base (1.5m x 0.5m)
Start Date: 11/12/2014
End Date: 19/12/2014

Presume another Huawei 288 going in which probably makes sense, still nearly 400 lines on the PCP that don't have FTTC on them. Fortunate that it was all planned and BDUK SFWY project is still ongoing so crews are in the general area.