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Standard User ian007jen
(member) Sun 03-Aug-14 20:40:05
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incompatible product on line


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Anybody seen this result from the dslchecker before? line 24

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Telephone Number 01437******* on Exchange HAVERFORDWEST is served by Cabinet 4
Featured Products 
Downstream Line Rate(Mbps) 
Upstream Line Rate(Mbps) 
Downstream Range(Mbps) 
Availability Date 
High    Low     High    Low             FTTC Range A (Clean)    80      80      20      20      --      Available
FTTC Range B (Impacted) 80      69.7    20      17.9    --      Available 
WBC ADSL 2+     Up to 8 --      6.5 to 13.5     AvailableWBC ADSL 2+ Annex M     Up to 8 Up to 1 6.5 to 13.5     Available
ADSL Max        Up to 5.5       --      5 to 8  AvailableWBC Fixed Rate  2       --      --      Available
Fixed Rate      2       --      --      AvailableOther Offerings
Fibre Multicast --      --      --      AvailableCopper Multicast        --      --      --      Available
Our Records indicate that you have a product or service supplied to this line that is currently incompatible with broadband. You will need to have the product or service ceased before broadband can be provided. If you place an order before the incompatible product or service has been ceased then the order will be rejected 
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The line is a business phone line with ADSL provisioned.

Ian

Edited by ian007jen (Sun 03-Aug-14 21:08:25)

Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sun 03-Aug-14 20:47:26
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Re: incompatible product on line


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Not visible in IE 11. Just a blank line between < > with a grey slider. For people who don't know how to see what should be there, it is:-
Our Records indicate that you have a product or service supplied to this line that is currently incompatible with broadband. You will need to have the product or service ceased before broadband can be provided. If you place an order before the incompatible product or service has been ceased then the order will be rejected.
I have seen that before, but sorry, I've forgotten the explanation.

I've just searched on this site for "currently incompatible with broadband" with no luck frown. You could try a few similar but shorter searches?

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.6/14.1Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Standard User R0NSKI
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 03-Aug-14 21:18:18
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If you do not currently have broadband then it may mean you have a DACS unit on your line. This is a device which can allow one physical phone cable to support two phone lines, but is not compatible with broadband.

DACS are often used where there is a shortage of physical phone lines.

Edit. Just noticed you've said the line has ADSL on it, so it can't have a DACS, in which case I've no other ideas.

Edited by R0NSKI (Sun 03-Aug-14 21:19:48)


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Standard User uno
(knowledge is power) Sun 03-Aug-14 21:25:17
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Re: incompatible product on line


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Have seen that once before... can't remember how we got around it.

Do you have any other features on that line?

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Standard User Gadget
(committed) Sun 03-Aug-14 22:18:47
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Re: incompatible product on line


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The most common ~"incompatible product" is an existing broadband service
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sun 03-Aug-14 22:59:11
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Yes. I remember that now. But I still can't remember where or why that comes up. I was half thinking when I posted before that it might be something to do with the existing service being LLU, or perhaps the prospective service.

The first fell down because if it was LLU the checker doesn't normally recognise it. The second didn't feel right.

Edit: I wonder if it is SMPF with LLU broadband!

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.6/14.1Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Edited by RobertoS (Sun 03-Aug-14 22:59:46)

Standard User simon194
(experienced) Mon 04-Aug-14 00:22:40
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I had a phone service which used Carrier Preselect on a BT line to switch the calls to Cable & Wireless which had that message.
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 04-Aug-14 00:46:21
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In reply to a post by Gadget:
The most common ~'incompatible product' is an existing broadband service
Common? Not at all!

If you already have BTw-based BB it says nowt about 'incompatible product' but:
If the End User wishes to migrate from their current Broadband supplier they will need to contact them in the first instance to obtain a MAC (Migrations Authorisation) Code, and then contact their new Broadband supplier to arrange for the service to be migrated.
And if you have non-BTw LLU BB it doesn't even recognise your #.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 04-Aug-14 00:51:20
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In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:
And if you have non-BTw LLU BB it doesn't even recognise your #.
It does on SMPF. Did you mean non-WLR?

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.6/14.1Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 04-Aug-14 01:09:45
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I was thinking Full LLU when I posted, but after I posted I realised about Partial LLU (of the Sky/TT flavour but not with what O2 & Orange used to have* {are there any of that sort left?}). I was going to edit to that effect until I saw that your edit re: SMPF covered it.

* I'm pretty sure that when I was on Orange LLU the BT Checker still said about using the MAC. It was only the BT Speedtester that didn't work.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC

Edited by XRaySpeX (Mon 04-Aug-14 01:15:40)

Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 04-Aug-14 07:19:51
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
Yes. I remember that now. But I still can't remember where or why that comes up. I was half thinking when I posted before that it might be something to do with the existing service being LLU, or perhaps the prospective service.

Is it one of the add-ons such as the alarm monitoring thing? (Redcare?)

James - plusnet unlimited fibre - 2 Jun 14 - 470m - Sync 55/9.4 (BT was 51/9.8)
15 years broadband (1999 ntl:cable trial) - Asus RT-AC68U with HG612 - PN BQM - PN speed - old BT speed
Standard User ian007jen
(member) Mon 04-Aug-14 08:22:42
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Thanks for all the replies

I wonder if it is SMPF with LLU broadband!

alarm monitoring thing?


It is for a client of mine (vet surgery) so alarms may be the cause.



I will have to do a bit more digging with one of the partners.

Ian
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 04-Aug-14 12:40:46
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A modern Redcare installation is compatible. An older one such as I had at my office was not. Also, there is ADSL on the line at the moment.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.6/14.1Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Edited by RobertoS (Mon 04-Aug-14 12:41:49)

Standard User R0NSKI
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 05-Aug-14 02:20:12
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A lot of businesses have more than one line, do they have any other lines you could check?

We used a different line at work when we switched, we then cancelled the ADSL service once we were happy with the FTTC service.

Standard User ian007jen
(member) Tue 05-Aug-14 11:17:22
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more than one line

My advise as well..install FTTC on the FAX (or the other incoming line), then when provisioned either cease the ADSL or keep it going as a back up.

Ian
Standard User simon194
(experienced) Tue 05-Aug-14 13:46:57
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What, no backup in case of fibre failure? smile
Standard User R0NSKI
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 06-Aug-14 03:33:36
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Nope, no backup. Whilst we make good use of our Internet connection it's not mission critical. We can all access email via our phones/tablets if need be, so you could say that is our backup.

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