Irby Exchange PT II

Link to first thread here http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/f/4333254-irb...

When a thread gets long, it's normal to archive and start a new one, limitations in forum software is sometimes the reason, don't worry folks

What is the point to this post? I don't see a question and the original has been closed!

Because when the old one was closed I was PMd by some interested parties who wanted to keep track. I'm doing my best in notifying when new cabinets come online and this is a good place to do it, it also contains a link to the map in my auto-sig.

Openreach active on Mill Hill Road today, meddling with cabs 2 and 3...

Ground works on both sides of the road at cabinet 2 today. Guessing they're putting power in.

I've already been told that cabinet 3 already has power.

Lets know when they start humming you'll be connected to Fibre BB before me

More ground works, this time at cabinet 1, looks like power going in.

Forgot to mention, got another letter from Esther McVey yesterday, this is the third time she's written to me with FTTC updates without me having to prompt her

To cut a long story short, I'm told that cabinet 3 will be ready to order from in 'the spring', which is about as vague as I'm used to dealing with as far as FTTC in these parts. I've been to the met office website and they define spring as March - May inclusive. Not sure what Openreach's definitiion is...

In reply to a post by Irby:

More ground works, this time at cabinet 1, looks like power going in.

Post photos - then people can suggest whethet they think (rightly or wrongly) whether you're correct or not. And also, it's more fun that way.

I think you'll just have to use your imagination

Cabinet 2 now showing as taking orders for FTTC.

Or at least it was, I did get a screengrab. It's now gone back to not ready. THis happened to other cabinets on DSL checker, seems normal in the first few hours of availability.

In reply to a post by Irby:

Or at least it was, I did get a screengrab. It's now gone back to not ready. THis happened to other cabinets on DSL checker, seems normal in the first few hours of availability.

Guess it was a delayed April Fool

Still no sign of action on cabinet 8, there is a big green cupboard type box right next to the green cabinet but I'm not sure if this is anything to do with BT, it is the right colour though.

I think I know the one you mean, no I think that's an electrical box of some kind. There's also some kind of gas monitoring box nearby also if I'm thinking of the correct road.

Actually I was thinking of somewhere else in my last reply. Cabinet 8 is at the end of Glenwood isn't it? The cabinet next to it is the old cabinet 8, there's nothing in that empty smaller cabinet.

I find it quite annoying the way they are allowed to leave these empty cabinets everywhere. One that particularly winds me up is the one in front of the pub in Willaston, it's only about 10 years old but they've placed the new version of it right next to the 10 year old, now empty one. Once the 2nd fibre cabinets start going in you could end up with 4 cabinets in a row there!

And also the old decommissioned ones, like the one outside the Dentist in Irby.

No it's more like a cupboard, with one door on it like a mini tardis in green. Might be something to do with the woods or water board but it's the same green colour as the BT cabinets. I know they always have problems with the underground ducting flooding there and have seen them pumping out many times over the years.

In reply to a post by Smithy99:

No it's more like a cupboard, with one door on it like a mini tardis in green. Might be something to do with the woods or water board but it's the same green colour as the BT cabinets. I know they always have problems with the underground ducting flooding there and have seen them pumping out many times over the years.

I do believe the cabinet you referring to is used to analyse the water quality automatically from the stream that runs thru Harrock Wood .

In reply to a post by XboxAsap:

In reply to a post by Smithy99:

No it's more like a cupboard, with one door on it like a mini tardis in green. Might be something to do with the woods or water board but it's the same green colour as the BT cabinets. I know they always have problems with the underground ducting flooding there and have seen them pumping out many times over the years.

That sounds right, does have some writing on it but I've not stopped to look. Shame as there would be loads of room in there for the BT equipment. The wait continues then.

I do believe the cabinet you referring to is used to analyse the water quality automatically from the stream that runs thru Harrock Wood .

Cabinet 4 has now changed status.

Cabinet 18 (the new cabinet to solve EO line problems) is accepting orders.

Thanks to xboxasap for the tip off.

Map updated.

Edited by Irby (Fri 10-Apr-15 20:13:45)

Got all excited seeing a BT van parked by cabinet 8 but it looks like they were only doing some tests. No sign of anything new being fitted. Not even a timescale given for the upgrade.

Hi, does anyone know why P12 hasn't been activated? All the other cabinets around it are. I don't know the exact date but Im guessing the new cabinet was installed 8 months. Just so frustrating waiting and waiting so if anyone has any pearls of wisdom Id love to hear them

Thanks
Dave

Hi Dave,

Yes P12 for some hasn't been activated which is very odd ,TBH I'm not sure anyone can give a definitive answer, in my case the upper half of Whaley Lane is Accepting Orders towards the Exchange, and the bottom half is an Enabled Area, and I share your frustration.
OpenReach seem to working to a business plan rollout that Joe public cannot understand. One FTTC installed and accepting orders in less than a month - bet BDUK paid for that.
Guess we will have to wait & hope soon - poster 'Irby' is monitoring ADSL changes - I've tried my best thru our MP, if she doesn't get re-elected then its back to square one badgering the new MP .

Thanks for the reply, yes very frustrating, can only assume they are looking at it from a return on investment point of view and anticipated uptake from the cabinets they put live. I just assumed there was a logistical/physical problem that was causing the delay, even more frustrating if its just a case of waiting for someone up on high giving the nod to put it live.

Well, 1, 4 and 9 are also not activated in that area.

Cabinet 12 was physically installed on 13th July 2014. 'My' cabinet, P3 was installed 9th June 2014 and it's also still not enabled.

It will come, one day...

Edited by Irby (Sat 18-Apr-15 08:43:02)

Yeah P12 is a strange one, especially as it's on the fibre run from Arrowebrook. The fibre goes right in front of the cabinet.

Makes me think it's more likely to be a power issue instead.

You can see various newer sections of ducting on Pensby Rd right the way through Thingwall and Pensby on the side of the pavement that the cabinets are on. This was done in 2011 when the fibre was brought from Arrowebrook to Heswall for FTTC at the time. Therefore they would have unblocked any blocked sections of that ducting that runs right in front of P12. This is what has me scratching my head and my reason for thinking it has to be another issue such as getting power to the cabinet.

Thanks again for your input, There's definitely no power to that cabinet at present so maybe that is the issue. Ah well, I will keep myself up to date with developments thanks to this great site and Irby's map. Cheers Dave.

In reply to a post by daveybabs:

Thanks again for your input, There's definitely no power to that cabinet at present so maybe that is the issue. Ah well, I will keep myself up to date with developments thanks to this great site and Irby's map. Cheers Dave.

As in it isn't humming or as in that you can't see any ducting that looks like power in the pavement? I haven't been and had a look so I'm just surmising really.

not humming, Ive been up close and personal to some of the live cabinets to have a listen (as discreetly as one can do these things without it looking odd and then checked my cabinet and there is definitely no power to it. There are actual paving slabs in front of it so Im guessing you wouldn't see the ducting as they would raise the flags, do the work then put them back?

Yeah that's what happens.

So it hard to say then with P12. They don't turn the cabinet on until about 2 weeks before live date anyway, otherwise it's just sitting there running up an electricity bill for nothing. I suspect it's a power issue but who knows. It may be worth asking the MP about that one, as they will be able to get in touch with the FTTC project manager for Wirral and get an update.

Esther McVey, credit where it's due, is responsive to enquiries about FTTC. Definitely worth contacting her.

In reply to a post by Irby:

Esther McVey, credit where it's due, is responsive to enquiries about FTTC. Definitely worth contacting her.

Sorry to disappoint but just checked her website and it says the following :

�This site was established while I was a Member of Parliament. As Parliament has been dissolved there are no Members of Parliament until after the Election on 7 May 2015.�

I can vouch for her over Broadband delivery concerns in West Wirral especially Irby, and her proactive approach towards BT & Openreach, lets hope if she is re-elected she can continue to champion our concerns .

I had to share this - just waiting at Traffic Lights junction of Gills Lane & Pensby Road, and my eye caught a small white board against the traffic light control box o/s Church , I was just able to read it - 'Superfast Broadband for ALL of Pensby ! Heswall have had it for Years' .
I just couldn't stop laughing . I had to park up and take a few snaps on iPhone - sadly Openreach won't see it - but clearly there are disgruntled potential customers out there
Tried to attach snaps unable to to do

Are there any cabinets that are not planned to be upgraded?

Interesting question - not sure if those participating on this forum have access to Openreach business rollout plans for Superfast broadband, or maybe there is .
What intrigues me is why there is such a staggered approach in making FTTC cabinets live and Accepting Orders.
It has been mentioned here there can be issues over powering them, but notwithstanding this, why can't all powered and ready cabinets be switched on ? If this was done would it overload the exchange ? or is there some other reason, or is Openreach ramping up demand - just thinking

I'm pretty sure they make them available to order pretty quickly once they are complete and ready.

In reply to a post by XboxAsap:

Interesting question - not sure if those participating on this forum have access to Openreach business rollout plans for Superfast broadband, or maybe there is .
What intrigues me is why there is such a staggered approach in making FTTC cabinets live and Accepting Orders.
It has been mentioned here there can be issues over powering them, but notwithstanding this, why can't all powered and ready cabinets be switched on ? If this was done would it overload the exchange ? or is there some other reason, or is Openreach ramping up demand - just thinking

I may or may not work for OR, I'll leave you to figure that out! But comparatively few within the company would have access to that information, it's really just the teams working on the rollout itself that would know reasons for delays etc.

As for your other question, no it wouldn't overload the headends they have masses of capacity, it's not really an issue these days. Only other reason I can think of is manpower, there probably aren't the resources to make all of the cabinets live when they would like to.

Back to my question though, are there any cabinets off the Irby exchange with no FTTC cabinet stood next to them now? Can't think of any off the top of my head.

Edited by deleted (Fri 24-Apr-15 14:20:30)

Cabinet 8 opposite Glenwood road does not have a New cabinet.

In reply to a post by Smithy99:

Cabinet 8 opposite Glenwood road does not have a New cabinet.

Interesting, and does the one on Glenwood itself? At the other end.

Should have one soon though is fibre is due in september

In reply to a post by FredTheB:

Should have one soon though is fibre is due in september

How long has it said September for? Sounds unrealistic to me.

But my general point was going to be that the sign by the traffic lights seems pointless! It's fairly obvious that there is FTTC planned for all of Irby and Pensby! It's just taking longer in some parts, but will happen!

Edited by deleted (Sun 26-Apr-15 10:36:28)

In reply to a post by Icaras:

In reply to a post by Smithy99:

Cabinet 8 opposite Glenwood road does not have a New cabinet.

Interesting, and does the one on Glenwood itself? At the other end.

Yes, I think that one is enabled and accepting orders

Hi,
I'm usually just a lurker on forums like these and trying to extrapolate as much information as I can from this and the previous thread.
Does anyone have any idea what is currently happening to P15 on Ridgewood Drive? I live only a few meteres away from the cabinet and strtuggle to hold a sync speed of 15000/1000 at the moment ad have been waiting for FTTC for the past 6 years.

P15 has been built and standning there for a very long time, sorry I don't have dates, but I find it strange it hasn't been enabled.

Thanks

In reply to a post by MarkPash:

and strtuggle to hold a sync speed of 15000/1000 at the moment

Just looking for my tiny violin.

Sorry if I appear to whine, just frustrated, that's all. Although with the distance I have from my cabinet, I feel it is disappointing.
Anyway do you have any clue as to why P15 is stuck doing nothing?

Edited by deleted (Wed 29-Apr-15 15:50:26)

Cannot really help with when or why you don't have Fibre yet, BT are a law to themselves when it comes down to that and there isn't any way to find out either.

On your speed though, with your current ADSL the distance to your cabinet has nothing to do with your speed, it is the distance to the exchange that matters as it is a copper wire all the way.

With fibre the distance to the cabinet is important as that is the bit still done in copper and so it is the bit that slows you down, if you could get fibre right to your house you would get the best speed fibre allows.

Yeah, I get all of that. Just wondering because most cabinets in the area that are further away from the exchange have been enabled for FTTC, just wondering if there was any difficulties with the activation, if anyone here has been informed of the status of local cabinets.

Not really saying you're whining. Just that you're currently enjoying a 15 megabit service, and possibly have been for quite a few years when many areas of Irby, including mine, only get 5 or 6 on a good day.

If I had 15mbit, I doubt I'd even be checking this thread

Edited by Irby (Thu 30-Apr-15 06:43:46)

In reply to a post by Irby:

Not really saying you're whining. Just that you're currently enjoying a 15 megabit service, and possibly have been for quite a few years when many areas of Irby, including mine, only get 5 or 6 on a good day.

If I had 15mbit, I doubt I'd even be checking this thread

Yes you would, I remember when we managed to get 1mb which seemed super fast, now 5mb isn't fast enough, how long before we are all pushing for the next raft of upgrades to 1Gb and faster?

Hi, It looks like BT have just installed Cabinet 8 at the top of Glenwood Drive. I think it may be part of a BDUK rollout. If it is installed as quick as P19, then it should be accepting orders within a few weeks.

I'm still waiting for cabinet 3 to go live as my 3MB broadband is driving me up the wall at the moment.

Bt Openreach have indicated to me to keep checking the website from the end of April.

In reply to a post by ping78:

If it is installed as quick as P19, then it should be accepting orders within a few weeks.

Or if it's as quick as P3 and P2, it will still be stood there doing nothing in a year...

Seriously though, thanks for the info, pretty confident it should be going live soon (I don't have inside info, just a hunch).

Well had a letter from Esther McVey today with update from BT as follows:

The Cabinet 9 in Whaley Lane in physically in place and has power connected. The outstanding 152m of duct work in Whaley Lane has now been completed so we are arranging for our engineers to install cables in new duct work. We expect to have the fibre connected late May 2015 which should make cabinet "ready for service" in late spring/early summer.
Funny thing is ducting was started & completed around 25/2/15 , followed by install of black cable/ yellow fibre soon after, power has been in cabinet months before ( dates were all posted in lost forum PT1).
I really cannot understand why there is such contradiction in what BT are saying, and what is happening on the ground ,maybe they are being given incorrect details by others ? Openreach ? Who knows - just lets hope 'late spring/early sumner' is not 2016 !!
BTW - top half of Whaley Lane and now Barker Road & Brian Ave are AO , presumably from cabinet P18 o/s exchange .

Like many of us, I stopped taking any notice of promised dates, I've heard it all before. Roughly 16 times since 2011.

It will come when it comes, but I really wouldn't be surprised to find us still discussing it on this forum in a year's time.

Irby - Thanks I share your frustration - perhaps when we are all connected - we can meet up for a drink to celebrate at the Anchor - sending the 'tab' to BT/Openreach lol

Back in 2002 me and 'Saidin' would often do just that after a marathon leafleting few hours

Went for a quick visit to cabinet 8, they have fitted across the road from the old one so I have been looking in the wrong place for it! Looks like they might have a bit of work to do in connecting all the lines from the old cabinet though which is a fair distance away and across the other side of Thingwall road.

Fingers crossed they won't keep us waiting for too long now.

Dave, which cabinet are you connected to? I noticed a new one down your way last week.

In reply to a post by Smithy99:

Went for a quick visit to cabinet 8, they have fitted across the road from the old one so I have been looking in the wrong place for it! Looks like they might have a bit of work to do in connecting all the lines from the old cabinet though which is a fair distance away and across the other side of Thingwall road.

Fingers crossed they won't keep us waiting for too long now.

Dave, which cabinet are you connected to? I noticed a new one down your way last week.

Well they will have picked the location for the DSLAM based on how close it is to BT ducting and Scottish Power cables. So it shouldn't be a big job to get cables through from cabinet 8. They only put 150 tie pairs through (initially) from the existing cabinet to the new one anyway, so it's just two 100 pair cables and two 50 pair cables they have to pull through from one cabinet to the other.

Just found a letter from Esther, too. Long story short, complications with duct silting for cabinet 2 and 3 are going to mean more delays.

Same old story!

Just discovered this thread, I am moving house soon from cabinet 13 which is enabled to cabinet 4 which isnt enabled... cant believe ill be back to slower internet speeds! Just wondered if there is any info on cabinet 4 as all cabinets around it seem to be enabled?

In reply to a post by leum07:

Just discovered this thread, I am moving house soon from cabinet 13 which is enabled to cabinet 4 which isnt enabled... cant believe ill be back to slower internet speeds! Just wondered if there is any info on cabinet 4 as all cabinets around it seem to be enabled?

AGGGH !!!! Don't move - you could be years in the doldrums

I wish i had the choice... all this stress of moving and my biggest headache is not having fibre!

In reply to a post by leum07:

I wish i had the choice... all this stress of moving and my biggest headache is not having fibre!

Well hope move goes OK - you won't have seen PT1 forum thread of this saga - just hope PT11 doesn't drag on for another six + years .
I'm positive having a tooth pulled without local would be less excruciating as getting full fibre access in our area.

IT can't be far off. Just don't think of moving to Mill Hill Road, not only do we not have FTTC yet, our ADSL speeds are amongst the lowest in the area!

At least ADSL speed at cabinet 13 will be decent.

In reply to a post by Icaras:

In reply to a post by Smithy99:

Went for a quick visit to cabinet 8, they have fitted across the road from the old one so I have been looking in the wrong place for it! Looks like they might have a bit of work to do in connecting all the lines from the old cabinet though which is a fair distance away and across the other side of Thingwall road.

Fingers crossed they won't keep us waiting for too long now.

Dave, which cabinet are you connected to? I noticed a new one down your way last week.

Well they will have picked the location for the DSLAM based on how close it is to BT ducting and Scottish Power cables. So it shouldn't be a big job to get cables through from cabinet 8. They only put 150 tie pairs through (initially) from the existing cabinet to the new one anyway, so it's just two 100 pair cables and two 50 pair cables they have to pull through from one cabinet to the other.

It is definitely in a better position, I know that the ducting by the old one constantly flooded being at the dip of the hill, remember seeing BT pumping water out of it many times and sometimes for hours at a time.

Did anyone's internet connection drop overnight? Mine was down for a few hours at about 03:00 or so (yeah, middle of the night, so most wouldn't notice it).

Yep checked about 4am it was down - with Sky - no news else where on dormant FTTC's coming on stream either - as most of you will be aware we lost our MP who was doing her best to get answers from Open reach & BT over delays. I don't really have the appetite to start the whole saga off again with the new one, so guess we will be a the mercy of the monopolies.

Yes, mine dropped last night, using cabinet 8, lets hope they are moving the lines across.

In reply to a post by Smithy99:

Yes, mine dropped last night, using cabinet 8, lets hope they are moving the lines across.

What do you mean "moving the lines across"?

Cabinet 2 briefly showed up as ready for ordering last night, now showing as no longer available. I've seen quite a few cabinets do this then a week or so later they are ready to go.

Not working at Openreach, just like me, Smithy probably means that the interruption in our Internet access may somehow be connected with final work to bring us FTTC.

I think you probably know that

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In reply to a post by Smithy99:

Yes, mine dropped last night, using cabinet 8, lets hope they are moving the lines across.

What do you mean "moving the lines across"?

The original cabinet 8 is on the opposite side of Thingwall road, the new fibre cabinet is a little way down Glenwood Drive, at some point I expect they will need to move the cables from the old cabinet across to the new one, I assume this will mean a bit of downtime when they do it.

Not so much 'moving' but the cabinets will need to be connected.

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In reply to a post by Icaras:

In reply to a post by Smithy99:

Yes, mine dropped last night, using cabinet 8, lets hope they are moving the lines across.

What do you mean "moving the lines across"?

The original cabinet 8 is on the opposite side of Thingwall road, the new fibre cabinet is a little way down Glenwood Drive, at some point I expect they will need to move the cables from the old cabinet across to the new one, I assume this will mean a bit of downtime when they do it.

No that's not how it works. There are (initially) 150 lines that run between the two cabinets. When someone orders fibre broadband their individual line is diverted into one of those link cables (they are called tie pairs). Their line then goes trough the new fibre cabinet.

Everyone else's lines aren't touched. You won't notice any downtime.

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In reply to a post by Smithy99:

In reply to a post by Icaras:

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What do you mean "moving the lines across"?

The original cabinet 8 is on the opposite side of Thingwall road, the new fibre cabinet is a little way down Glenwood Drive, at some point I expect they will need to move the cables from the old cabinet across to the new one, I assume this will mean a bit of downtime when they do it.

No that's not how it works. There are (initially) 150 lines that run between the two cabinets. When someone orders fibre broadband their individual line is diverted into one of those link cables (they are called tie pairs). Their line then goes trough the new fibre cabinet.

Everyone else's lines aren't touched. You won't notice any downtime.

That's good to know, I thought maybe with the cabinets being so far apart they might do one big lift and shift. The trick is to be one of the first 150 people to sign up then!!!

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In reply to a post by Smithy99:

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The original cabinet 8 is on the opposite side of Thingwall road, the new fibre cabinet is a little way down Glenwood Drive, at some point I expect they will need to move the cables from the old cabinet across to the new one, I assume this will mean a bit of downtime when they do it.

No that's not how it works. There are (initially) 150 lines that run between the two cabinets. When someone orders fibre broadband their individual line is diverted into one of those link cables (they are called tie pairs). Their line then goes trough the new fibre cabinet.

Everyone else's lines aren't touched. You won't notice any downtime.

That's good to know, I thought maybe with the cabinets being so far apart they might do one big lift and shift. The trick is to be one of the first 150 people to sign up then!!!

150 lines is the new standard amount to be put in at first. But of course once those are at 75% capacity they put in another 100. Once the fibre cabinet fills up, they add a second cabinet.

It depends on the capacity of the fibre cabinet though. I know the cabinet will be manufactured by Huawei but I haven't seen it, is it a big one or a small one in comparison to the others in the area?

Its a large FTTC cabinet & similar to others in the area

In reply to a post by XboxAsap:

Its a large FTTC cabinet & similar to others in the area

Ok so it can take up to 288 lines. Well, 287 lines as one is used for the telemetry link

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In reply to a post by XboxAsap:

Its a large FTTC cabinet & similar to others in the area

Ok so it can take up to 288 lines. Well, 287 lines as one is used for the telemetry link

Out of interest how many lines does a standard telephone cabinet hold ? Does it take 287 ?

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In reply to a post by Icaras:

In reply to a post by XboxAsap:

Its a large FTTC cabinet & similar to others in the area

Ok so it can take up to 288 lines. Well, 287 lines as one is used for the telemetry link

Out of interest how many lines does a standard telephone cabinet hold ? Does it take 287 ?

There's not really a maximum because they just keep physically cramming more in. On paper it's about 1000 lines though. None in Irby will be that size, Heswall there is though.

The telemetry link is a pstn line, so it doesn't use a vdsl port. The ties are typically in 100 pair cables

In reply to a post by Icaras:

There's not really a maximum because they just keep physically cramming more in. On paper it's about 1000 lines though. None in Irby will be that size, Heswall there is though.

Agreed, one of our cabinets on our exchange contains 913 lines.

Paul

In reply to a post by Ribble:

The telemetry link is a pstn line, so it doesn't use a vdsl port. The ties are typically in 100 pair cables

Yeah that's true actually. Though here they are using one of the tie pairs as a telemetry line now. So it does have the effect of meaning the initial 150 tie pairs becomes 149.

Anyone know what is going on with cab 8? Open reach are now reporting it as "under review"?

I'd ignore that, the checker seems to be quite erratic shortly before a cabinet goes live. Have a listen to the cabinet and see if it is powered on or not.

Update on Cabinet 15 if anyone but me is interested.
There was a gentleman with a laptop sitting on top of the cabinet and an Openreach van. He was kneeling down and doing something in the cabinet and I could hear the whirring noise from where I was standing. I later went to the cabinet and it was making noise, unlike before. So I'm assuming it may go live soon? Anyone who has experience with this let me know what this means for the status of the cabinet.

I just came here to post an update on the same cabinet, looks like it's imminent to go live as it's already showing expected FTTC speeds

http://www.dslchecker.bt.com/pls/adsl/ADSLChecker.Ad...

Yup I see the same, and the openreach checker is going bezerk and saying Under Review, so that has to be good.

In reply to a post by MarkPash:

Update on Cabinet 15 if anyone but me is interested.
There was a gentleman with a laptop sitting on top of the cabinet and an Openreach van. He was kneeling down and doing something in the cabinet and I could hear the whirring noise from where I was standing. I later went to the cabinet and it was making noise, unlike before. So I'm assuming it may go live soon? Anyone who has experience with this let me know what this means for the status of the cabinet.

Should be live within the next two weeks.

In reply to a post by MarkPash:

Yup I see the same, and the openreach checker is going bezerk and saying Under Review, so that has to be good.

Not trying to be negative but being set as Under Review means nothing, some people have been on that for several months, hell we have been set to that since the Where and when page started, but saying that your in a BDUK area, so your probably going to get it soon.

The good thing is its down to go live end of June, so lets hope for that date.

Paul

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In reply to a post by MarkPash:

Yup I see the same, and the openreach checker is going bezerk and saying Under Review, so that has to be good.

Not trying to be negative but being set as Under Review means nothing, some people have been on that for several months, hell we have been set to that since the Where and when page started, but saying that your in a BDUK area, so your probably going to get it soon.

The good thing is its down to go live end of June, so lets hope for that date.

Paul

Well usually I would think the same, but from what I have heard, before it goes live the openreach checker will do weird things.

In reply to a post by MarkPash:

Well usually I would think the same, but from what I have heard, before it goes live the openreach checker will do weird things.

If your referring to the glitch on the BT DSL Checker and the Where and when page yesterday, that that was a glitch in the database I reported it a few mins after it happened and a few hours later was fixed.

So if not that, what weird things are you referring to?

Paul

In reply to a post by PaulKirby:

If your referring to the glitch on the BT DSL Checker and the Where and when page yesterday, that that was a glitch in the database I reported it a few mins after it happened and a few hours later was fixed.

So if not that, what weird things are you referring to?

Paul

Well I can't quite remember where I read it but others have experienced strange statuses on the Where and when page before their cabinet goes live. Besides I believe that the DSL checker that reported the expected speeds and the change in status on the Where and when page is no coincidence.

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Well I can't quite remember where I read it but others have experienced strange statuses on the Where and when page before their cabinet goes live. Besides I believe that the DSL checker that reported the expected speeds and the change in status on the Where and when page is no coincidence.

Well I know there was a bug in the database where when you checked by phone number it said everyone was on an EO Line (DSL Checker) and game a lovely blue ? on the Where and when page.
And it did it for every phone number I put into it, however checking by full address worked fine.

So that was a bug, this thing happens a lot when BT update the database for the DSL Checker and the Where and when page, just like a few months ago it said everyone could get fibre and said that for several hours.

As for the Under Review status, don't get me wrong that's not a bad status to be on, just don't expect to get fibre a few weeks after being put on it, you could be on it for several months or a few days.

Paul

Edited by PaulKirby (Sat 23-May-15 19:05:42)

Been away of a few weeks and have just checked where & when for FTTC 9 and it is now showing 'Under Review' after being 'Enabled Area' for months. ADSL check reveals little
In view of previous comments in posts is there a likely hood we may see fibre at last

In reply to a post by XboxAsap:

Been away of a few weeks and have just checked where & when for FTTC 9 and it is now showing 'Under Review' after being 'Enabled Area' for months. ADSL check reveals little
In view of previous comments in posts is there a likely hood we may see fibre at last

Can confirm FTTC 4 is showing under review now also. Would be perfect for it to be enabled just after moving into new house

In reply to a post by leum07:

Can confirm FTTC 4 is showing under review now also. Would be perfect for it to be enabled just after moving into new house

Yes Cabinet 4 is currently Under Review, and is down for end of June as far as I can see.

Paul

Yippeee!

So I checked earlier today, DSLchecker reported no change, "availavble June - 30", but openreach said EA, for Enabled Area.

So I checked two minutes ago on the openreach checker and it said AO, Accepting Orders. I checked DSLchecker to be sure and it said "Available".

Screenshot

This is for cabinet 15.

I suggest those who are on cabinet 4 and 9 to check themselves to see if they have changed.

Good luck everyone!

Congrats

Just checked cabinet 9 - now changed from under review to enabled area - very frustrating

Well it's a good sign, because mine was under review yesterday, and it went to Enabled Area today and then Accepting Orders today. Now looking to buy a package from a good ISP and have a Modem only box. Can anyone make recommendations for ISP?

We'll hope 4 & 9 soon follow -
re recommendation for good ISP for Fibre there are many deals out there , but as the saying goes 'you only get what you pay for'. Guess it depends on what your demand will be from the household , gaming, streaming, large downloads/uploads etc.
Sometimes the cheaper monthly deals will put a cap on usage , go over this and it could be expensive, unlimited and your safer, and of course there's Infinity 1 & 2 , guess this will depend on your locality to FTTC and how far it is from exchange.
Personally I have been checking forums for both Sky & BT ( I am currently with Sky ) and on there Fibre BB forum there are many complaints of reducing of speed, but this seems to be if you are on lower package. It is said BT do not reduce speed , so from my perspective I am looking at moving to BT , as I have phone with them for business . No doubt there will be varying opinions and more expert comment on your question

Well I hope for the best, hopeully Irby's map will auto update when changes happen.

As for an internet plan, caps are stupid, I expect to download at least 20TB a month for the first few months. I did a little research and I think I need to buy an unlocked Huawei HG612 modem and probably will have to go with BT for 80/20.

Been waiting a while for cabinet 9, hopefully it follows suit. Recently moved to Sky as only had to pay line rental after being with EE since moving here couple of years ago. Been getting intermittent lag during gaming and issues streaming via Now TV though. Not sure yet whether the problem is on Sky's end or mine. In a 12 month contact butI suspect they'd have no problem me upgrading to fibre and restarting another contract at whatever the current price is.

Just an update on #9. 2 vans (1 open reach, didn't catch the other) outside the cabinet this morning with ground opened up.

Thanks for update

In reply to a post by XboxAsap:

Thanks for update

Further Update - saw chap at Cabinet #9 with Laptop as going out shopping - on return saw that cabinet now has a silver coloured lock instead of green - hopefully soon AO

Great to see an area that already has respectable ADSL speeds is getting FTTC before us poor yokels on cabinets 2 and 3...

I hear there is some controversy over the placement of the cabinet outside the Anchor pub?

In reply to a post by Icaras:

I hear there is some controversy over the placement of the cabinet outside the Anchor pub?

Funny I recall seeing some months ago a group of people including two Yellow Jacket BT/Openreach chaps with clipboards standing outside Anchor Pub, what have you heard ?

Not heard anything about that, it does stand out though!

Just that people are very unhappy with its placement. Due to the pub being such an important landmark. Apparently that was the only place it could go due to the width of the pavement. They won't move it now.

It is a pretty pub, especially when the cows in the field next door come to the edge of the field and can be seen next to it

I always thought it would go on the patch of pavement directly opposite, right by the stocks.

In reply to a post by Irby:

It is a pretty pub, especially when the cows in the field next door come to the edge of the field and can be seen next to it

I always thought it would go on the patch of pavement directly opposite, right by the stocks.

They could always paint the box Black & White wavy pattern - to match the cows in the field

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In reply to a post by Irby:

It is a pretty pub, especially when the cows in the field next door come to the edge of the field and can be seen next to it

I always thought it would go on the patch of pavement directly opposite, right by the stocks.

They could always paint the box Black & White wavy pattern - to match the cows in the field

Would be funny to see a drunk farmer trying to milk the cabinet

Paul

Hi,

It now looks like the DSL checker is reporting FTTC speeds for cabinet 9.

In reply to a post by ping78:

Hi,

It now looks like the DSL checker is reporting FTTC speeds for cabinet 9.

Thanks - well spotted I had checked earlier Fibre was not listed .

Cabinets 2 and 3 now have ground works nearby. Looks like Scottish Power putting power in.

Should be just another year or two to go now.

In reply to a post by Irby:

Cabinets 2 and 3 now have ground works nearby. Looks like Scottish Power putting power in.

Should be just another year or two to go now.

Have faith - before Xmas - 2015

Cabinet 9 now showing ALMOST ready for orders.
http://www.dslchecker.bt.com/pls/adsl/ADSLChecker.Ad...

#9 now showing as Accepting Orders

In reply to a post by Bendito:

#9 now showing as Accepting Orders

Well spotted you beat me again I only checked it at 9am - now on to BT - yippee

Congrats!

/drums fingers

BT won't be getting my money, that's for sure!

In reply to a post by Irby:

Congrats!

/drums fingers

BT won't be getting my money, that's for sure!

All sorted - I should have got my Mac Code earlier from ISP , but should have it in a few days - got good deal from BT for Infinity 2 keeping existing phone package - Irby thanks all your help & hope you get your Fibre Optic soon

Well after waiting so long for Fibre to be available to me, getting it has not been as quick as I thought .
Today I received my Mac Code in the post which is within the five days requirement, SKY initially said they would email me it which was quicker
Then having contacted BT it appears the Mac Code given by SKY gives the activation date has 30/6/15, it was suggested that it might be to do with the payment date on my SKY broadband ?
What did surprise me was that I can still use my existing SKY email addresses, even though I'm moving ISP to BT ?,. So I'll have to drum my fingers a few more weeks before I get Fibre access. Guess if I had stayed with SKY and upgraded it would have been quicker ?.
Good news though from 20th June MAC code will no longer be required when switching ISP, so hopefully process will be much quicker & simpler according to Ofcom, somehow I doubt that

Can let you know as soon as Sky upgrade mine! Ordered it yesterday and on their site it says processing but not had an email to indicate how long that processing will take. From searching online it appears to be a week or two but I already have the latest Sky Hub.

If I remember correctly the cabinet checker thing had the 30/6/2015 for availability prior to it accepting orders so might be more than just a coincidence.

In reply to a post by Bendito:

Can let you know as soon as Sky upgrade mine! Ordered it yesterday and on their site it says processing but not had an email to indicate how long that processing will take. From searching online it appears to be a week or two but I already have the latest Sky Hub.

If I remember correctly the cabinet checker thing had the 30/6/2015 for availability prior to it accepting orders so might be more than just a coincidence.

Once again well spotted re 30/6/15 . After all AO is Accepting Orders but from past posts on ( Irby Exchange PT 1) activation dates were quicker ?
On the Ofcom's site is says following :
Once you have Mac Code, give it to your new provider who will then coordinate the switch. This part of the process usually takes around five working days.

Edited by deleted (Thu 11-Jun-15 16:38:32)

You shouldn't need a MAC to move to Fibre to the Cabinet.

All it needs is someone to go to the cabinet and put the jumpers wires in required. Your old broadband can still pump out of the exchange and won't interfere with your new VDSL2. Generally people are recommended just to order BT Infinity from the website and cancel their previous ADSL.

Anything you see from Ofcom regarding MACs will be for someone switching from one ADSL provider to another. Not for someone moving from ADSL to FTTC. I certainly didn't use a MAC and that was years ago.

Edited by deleted (Fri 12-Jun-15 13:05:36)

Icaras,

Well it seems odd but I have been required to supply a Mac Code from my previous ISP SKY in order to move to BT for fibre BB, so in view of your comments I'm not sure what's going on. On the face of it there seems little I can do, even the BT online order process required my MAC code , in the end I did via phone .

Sounds like I could be wrong then. I definitely didn't need one and I've heard others say they didn't need one! Well there's no technical reason why you need one because the FTTC service just starts working when the cabinet work is done by the engineer. The VDSL signal from the cabinet blocks out the ADSL signal from the exchange. I know that's not relevant to you though.

Ah well, if they insist on a MAC that must be how it is, annoying nonetheless.

As I pointed out in post before - Ofcom have deemed as from 20th June a MacCode will no longer be required - just let your new preferred ISP know that you won't to sign up and they will take care of transfer from old ISP, no doubt you will need to be out of original contract term. Ofcom believes that it will be easier and drive up competition ?
Appreciate your comments

Yes I read up on that. The new provider pulls the broadband connection over in the same way as when you switch voice providers. I doubt it'll increase competition but it'll certainly make things easier.

Still seems odd a MAC is required when switching to FTTC at present. I just can't think what the purpose is.

Still seems odd a MAC is required when switching to FTTC at present.

Quite possibly because he is also changing ISP rather than simply upgrading the connection for which a MAC has never been required.

In reply to a post by MCM:

Still seems odd a MAC is required when switching to FTTC at present.

Quite possibly because he is also changing ISP rather than simply upgrading the connection for which a MAC has never been required.

Yes thats my thinking as well - Thanks

I know this is off topic but if someone could explain why a MAC is required when switching to FTTC I'd be interested to hear.

Because you continue to fail to understand the poster is CHANGING ISP. Whilst FTTC is fibre to the cabinet is uses the same copper line from the cabinet to the premises and thus the ADSL provider needs to be aware of the FTTC install.

I'm not failing to understand anything! The cheek of it!

But still I don't get why a MAC is required. I understand the poster is changing ISPs. Why can't they just cancel their existing broadband service and then place an order for FTTC with the company they want?

As soon as the jumpering work is done at the cabinet the new FTTC service with the new ISP will work. The old ADSL broadband can continue pumping out of the DSLAM in the exchange until the old ISP choose to disconnect it. See what I mean?

I'm not failing to understand anything! The cheek of it!

Nothing cheeky at all. <g> What is interesting is that you seem to be the only person seemingly having a problem with this however it is all somewhat academic since, as you already know, MACs will no longer be required from the end of this week.

A.N. Other ISP cannot place an order for FTTC on a line that has an active ADSL service. The OP would need to cease and reorder which would mean probably mean weeks without service. A migration should mean minimal time without service.

In reply to a post by Ribble:

A.N. Other ISP cannot place an order for FTTC on a line that has an active ADSL service. The OP would need to cease and reorder which would mean probably mean weeks without service. A migration should mean minimal time without service.

This is my understanding of ISP change over & upgrade to Fibre Broadband .

You're a very serious person. I was only joking!

I don't "have a problem with it" I'm just interested that's all, there's a difference. So basically the system won't let you place an order for FTTC when ADSL is already active on the same line. Still seems a bit unnecessary, because out in the network we can just take over an existing line that had ADSL with FTTC service instead.

Just going back to my post previously, activation date I've got is 22nd June for upgrade from Sky Broadband to Fibre, seems in line with expectation

XboxAsap, I'd be interested to hear why you are moving from Sky to BT for your FTTC?

You clearly did have a problem with it given the number of times you questioned others that were telling why a MAC was required.

In reply to a post by MCM:

You clearly did have a problem with it given the number of times you questioned others that were telling why a MAC was required.

As I said before, there's a difference between having a problem with it and being interested in why it is needed. No one told me why it was required actually, until a couple of posts ago. You told told me it was required, not why.

In reply to a post by Icaras:

XboxAsap, I'd be interested to hear why you are moving from Sky to BT for your FTTC?

There are a number of reasons why, which are relevant to my present & future requirements, which I choose not too discuss in this forum.
As you will be aware there are numerous ISP providers out there and I have chosen BT, who its seems to attract a some negative comment on this forum, as the saying goes ' Ones mans meat is another mans poison '
Thanks for the enquiry

I will be moving from Sky to Plusnet when my cabinet is done. One of the reasons is that Plusnet don't block any of the domains that I want to use on my Android TV box and I have found since Sky started to do their on demand TV speeds can vary at times it can be 50% of my line speed when it was always maxed out before.

I will do a little more research closer to the time but I personally wouldn't touch the BT product and yes I am aware that Plusnet are owned by BT but they do run it as a separate entity.

The MAC code method is/was there to make sure it's easy to change ISP with minimal, and sometimes no, downtime at all. I think a decade and a bit ago, OFCOM might even have ruled that all ISPs must comply with the MAC system of changing ISPs, because some ISPs were making it hard to change to another one. There's a very similar system in place for changing mobile operator whilst keeping the same phone number, it's there to solve a lot of problems people were having.

[Even if apparently Vodafone can't do that properly, according to Watchdog and a load of Vodafone's users.]

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In reply to a post by Icaras:

XboxAsap, I'd be interested to hear why you are moving from Sky to BT for your FTTC?

There are a number of reasons why, which are relevant to my present & future requirements, which I choose not too discuss in this forum.
As you will be aware there are numerous ISP providers out there and I have chosen BT, who its seems to attract a some negative comment on this forum, as the saying goes ' Ones mans meat is another mans poison '
Thanks for the enquiry

What is your predicted speed? Just be aware about the hub, I find that the Home Hub 5 is really good wifi wise but not on the default settings unfortunately. I had to endlessly play around with the wifi channels to get the great speed over wifi I do now (can max out my connection which is 70Mb).

According to BT Broadband Checker A Range Download High 80 - Low 74, Upload High 20 - Low 20
B Range Download 80 Low 61.9 Upload 20 - 12.2
I'll see what happens to connection speeds I get when I get Hub later this month and connection on 30th

Nice speeds, I've never been able to get much more than about 30Mbps over wifi on Sky's router. They really need to replace those things. 30th is a bit of a wait really.

Yes I know but there's little I can do - considering the years gone by waiting - an extra few days pales into insignificance

Any more info on cabinet 4? So many enabled cabinets around this one so can't understand why there's nothing happening with this one. Miss my speedy fast internet!

In reply to a post by Bendito:

Just going back to my post previously, activation date I've got is 22nd June for upgrade from Sky Broadband to Fibre, seems in line with expectation

Missed your post - a week earlier than me, congrats - would be interested what speed they have predicted & what you actually get ?

Email says should support between 40-40Mb (nice range...) with Guaranteed Minimum Access of 36.1Mb. Didn't go with the Pro option which I think gives up to the 80 the cabinet can provide, not very technical so don't know the details of how it all works myself.

Was hoping to test it tonight after work but having issues with bootup on PC at home which may hinder things but will see how it goes and will post test if I manage to get on.

Thanks for that - hope you get hooked up later today.
I'm still frustrated at the delay for my upgrade till 30/6/15 - just doesn't make sense . When I gave BT the Mac Code from SKY I recall the operator saying that its for 30 June & that is the date SKY have set for me to migrate over too BT , she remarked that an earlier customer moving from SKY to BT was given 18th June.
Bendito you remarked in previous post that activation date for #9 cabinet was set for 30/6/15 & yet your getting hooked today, so clearly there appears no reason why I am experiencing such a long delay.
It may sound that I am moaning - honestly I'm not , I just can't understand the delay - I'm due to get delivery of BT Hub & TV Box on 26th or 29th June, so lets hope thats not delayed - thanks for listening

That sounds like an Openreach resourcing issue. The other person will have been in a different part of the UK to you.

In reply to a post by Icaras:

That sounds like an Openreach resourcing issue. The other person will have been in a different part of the UK to you.

Presume you are referring to manpower ? i.e Openreach employee going to FTTC cabinet and hooking up required phone line to Fibre ? but Bendito lives in area covered by #9 and yet is getting Fibre today, he is staying with Sky & getting Fibre sooner ? I'm moving from Sky too BT and having to wait a further week

In reply to a post by XboxAsap:

In reply to a post by Icaras:

That sounds like an Openreach resourcing issue. The other person will have been in a different part of the UK to you.

Presume you are referring to manpower ? i.e Openreach employee going to FTTC cabinet and hooking up required phone line to Fibre ? but Bendito lives in area covered by #9 and yet is getting Fibre today, he is staying with Sky & getting Fibre sooner ? I'm moving from Sky too BT and having to wait a further week

That's right, that's what I'm referring to. It's the only reason I can think of for the delay. When a CP places an order the Openreach system will look for an appointment slot. Even if no one is going to your house you still need a half hour slot with an engineer for them to go to the cabinet.

Have they said if a home visit will be required?

Also, because you are moving providers you will require an engineer to visit the exchange in Irby too and swap you onto the BT equipment in there (for the voice side of things). Obviously that exchange visit has to be roughly coordinated with the cabinet visit, by a different engineer. All adds to the delay.

Edited by deleted (Mon 22-Jun-15 13:18:07)

In reply to a post by Icaras:

In reply to a post by XboxAsap:

In reply to a post by Icaras:

That sounds like an Openreach resourcing issue. The other person will have been in a different part of the UK to you.

Presume you are referring to manpower ? i.e Openreach employee going to FTTC cabinet and hooking up required phone line to Fibre ? but Bendito lives in area covered by #9 and yet is getting Fibre today, he is staying with Sky & getting Fibre sooner ? I'm moving from Sky too BT and having to wait a further week

That's right, that's what I'm referring to. It's the only reason I can think of for the delay. When a CP places an order the Openreach system will look for an appointment slot. Even if no one is going to your house you still need a half hour slot with an engineer for them to go to the cabinet.

Have they said if a home visit will be required?

Also, because you are moving providers you will require an engineer to visit the exchange in Irby too and swap you onto the BT equipment in there (for the voice side of things). Obviously that exchange visit has to be roughly coordinated with the cabinet visit, by a different engineer. All adds to the delay.

No I was told a home visit was not required - just connect BT Hub to phone socket and follow install instructions - lets hope they are correct BTW my phone line is with BT - my Broadband was with SKY

Edited by deleted (Mon 22-Jun-15 13:48:48)

Previous comment for the 30th was just from memory as to what the dsl checker page was saying prior to accepting orders became active. Can only assume the switch of provider is a separate delay to the broadband connection being upgraded?

Don't need a home visit myself and don't need new hardware as the hub was provided when I switched to Sky broadband about 3 months ago.

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In reply to a post by Icaras:

In reply to a post by XboxAsap:

... nested quotes trimmed ...

Presume you are referring to manpower ? i.e Openreach employee going to FTTC cabinet and hooking up required phone line to Fibre ? but Bendito lives in area covered by #9 and yet is getting Fibre today, he is staying with Sky & getting Fibre sooner ? I'm moving from Sky too BT and having to wait a further week

That's right, that's what I'm referring to. It's the only reason I can think of for the delay. When a CP places an order the Openreach system will look for an appointment slot. Even if no one is going to your house you still need a half hour slot with an engineer for them to go to the cabinet.

Have they said if a home visit will be required?

Also, because you are moving providers you will require an engineer to visit the exchange in Irby too and swap you onto the BT equipment in there (for the voice side of things). Obviously that exchange visit has to be roughly coordinated with the cabinet visit, by a different engineer. All adds to the delay.

No I was told a home visit was not required - just connect BT Hub to phone socket and follow install instructions - lets hope they are correct BTW my phone line is with BT - my Broadband was with SKY

Even though it was just your broadband that was with Sky an engineer will need to go to the exchange and (in simple terms) disconnect your line from the Sky DSLAM. So I reckon that's why yours is taking longer.

Even though it was just your broadband that was with Sky an engineer will need to go to the exchange and (in simple terms) disconnect your line from the Sky DSLAM. So I reckon that's why yours is taking longer.


Thanks for that insight

Managed to sort PC out and have had it active since Monday. Downloading via Steam at a max of 4.4MB/s so that = about 35Mb/s? Not far off the guaranteed minimum access line speed but I'll give it a while to settle

In reply to a post by Bendito:

Managed to sort PC out and have had it active since Monday. Downloading via Steam at a max of 4.4MB/s so that = about 35Mb/s? Not far off the guaranteed minimum access line speed but I'll give it a while to settle

Sounds good have you done a speed checker for both download/upload speed ? Do you have new black SKY hub ?
I have confirmation today of dispatch of BT Hub 5 & TV Box due Friday
Thanks

Sorry for not posting much and for being a lurker, spotted openreach van outside the anchor today about 3ish cabnet was being worked on. Also spotted another van going past the heather land half an hour later. Hope this helps anyone?

In reply to a post by Sqwirral:

Sorry for not posting much and for being a lurker, spotted openreach van outside the anchor today about 3ish cabnet was being worked on. Also spotted another van going past the heather land half an hour later. Hope this helps anyone?

Excellent news - looks like more FTTC's are due to become active in area - tomorrow is my date for activation to Fibre - I'll post speed results as soon as possible for those Lurkers and anyone else interested

In reply to a post by XboxAsap:

In reply to a post by Sqwirral:

Sorry for not posting much and for being a lurker, spotted openreach van outside the anchor today about 3ish cabnet was being worked on. Also spotted another van going past the heather land half an hour later. Hope this helps anyone?

Excellent news - looks like more FTTC's are due to become active in area - tomorrow is my date for activation to Fibre - I'll post speed results as soon as possible for those Lurkers and anyone else interested

Well Fibre went live on 30 June before 9am - had a few tech issues doing self install but resolved - i was told it takes a few days for signal to settle, but doing OOKLA tests at various times of day getting 55mb approx download and 18-20 upload for Infinity 2.
Was onto BT Broadband support yesterday and they did a line test and said it was peaking at 60mb download - 20mb upload - they said there maybe issues with extension phone socket which is non NTE5 installed in 1999 - so have ordered OpenReach NTE5a & MK3 faceplate plus wire tool , to replace extension socket myself which has the BT Hub 5 connected . Will sort out BT TV this weekend as well .
Overall very pleased so far and here's hoping those waiting will be connected soon

Glad to hear it's all up and running, looking forward to p3 being active when I don't know but I bet p3 is the last cab that gets active? Not getting my hopes up for mega fast fibre 30-20mb dl maybe?

Need to check my wall sockets, how can you tell if there nte5?
Cheers

In reply to a post by Sqwirral:

Need to check my wall sockets, how can you tell if there nte5?
Cheers

It is important that you do not alter the main BT socket into house as this is BT's property, in my case the BT HH5 is connected to extension , as I say you can make socket upgrade to extension sockets - but make sure you are comfortable doing it - Google search - check number of posts/vids so that your sure all advice is on same page - you may not need to alter anything here is BT's socket checker page LINK

Wasn't gonna start messing with wall socket, but I do know there was a second wall socket installed in the house after 1999 by a bt engineer, probably 2003-2004. Do you think it would of been a nte5 socket?

In reply to a post by Sqwirral:

Wasn't gonna start messing with wall socket, but I do know there was a second wall socket installed in the house after 1999 by a bt engineer, probably 2003-2004. Do you think it would of been a nte5 socket?

Click the LINK in my last post that will show different BT sockets so that you can check what you have

I'm also anticipating that not only will P3 be last, it will be delayed into 2016.

Hi Irby,

I noticed that the Fibre multicast availability dates have now been removed from the DSL checker using a postcode lookup, as the 30th June has now passed.

I then contacted NGA enquiries who tell me to check back in January 2016, so it looks again that Openreach have missed the deadline again, and have simply moved the targets again.

I did see some contractors working with possibly a desilting machine yesterday between Glenwood drive, and Thingwall road near to the fields where there is a small mini roundabout)

I'm with you desperately waiting for Cabinet 3.

In reply to a post by Irby:

I'm also anticipating that not only will P3 be last, it will be delayed into 2016.

The speed in this part of irby is really poor 5-6mb, I wish bt/openreach would just finish the job they started years ago! Doesn't it make sense to finish off this area before starting another part of wirral?.

Seven more cabnets to enable then they can move on to another area can't for the life of me understand? Aaahhhh #pullhairout

The irony isn't lost on me that the part of Irby with most to gain from FTTC is also the last to benefit. The parts of Irby that were already getting 20+mbps were the first. I don't suppose some exec in Openreach decided on that on purpose, the further you go from the exchange, the more likely problems will be uncovered in silted ducts etc.

Still feels that I'm being victimised over the hassle we gave them the last time around At least Tom (Saidin) got enabled very early, I think his was the first cabinet to be upgraded, well over a year ago

All in all, it's a lottery, I really cannot be arsed writing to a new MP and getting her acquainted with the problem, again.

I really wish I could get a bit more information for you. We are just told it's a clever algorithm which feeds in information about levels of interest from all CPs with customers on that cabinet, active ADSL customers on the cabinet, demographics, and much more-and decided which cabinets to do and in which order. Obviously when they hit things like blocked ducts those algorithms go out the window.

Cabinet 12 is a perfect example, there's no reason this shouldn't be live. It's on the route of the fibre to the aggregation node, and has got to be close to a Scottish Power hookup, but for some reason it's a low priority and there's stacks of other cabinets across the North West that must be done first.

Totally understand but what can we do?

Maybe with a new mp they could approach this from a different angle, maybe I'm just clutching at straws?

It can't hurt. There's no reason why they can't move certain cabinets up the list based on public opinion so an MP might be a good place to start.

Some news for those who (like me) have been waiting for P7 to be activated ...

According to ITPAS (Irby Thurstaston & Pensby Amenity Society) OpenReach put the new FTTC cabinet for P7 a LONG way away from the agreed site. OR claim that there was not enough room to get round the cabinet on the path so they arbitrarily moved it. ITPAS then said that "people" had complained that it was an eyesore in the new position, getting in the way of the Anchor Pub. It was also pointed out that the reason there was not enough room was that the grass verge had been allowed to massively overgrow the path (and could be trimmed back). Last I heard OR had no intention of moving the new box so there seems to be an impasse. Marvelous.

In reply to a post by tonka99:

Last I heard OR had no intention of moving the new box so there seems to be an impasse. Marvelous.

Sounds like a Greek Tragedy sorry couldn't help it

Interesting. Where was the originally agreed site for the cabinet?

I've heard about this. I agree it looks awful but that cabinet will definitely not be moved, sadly.

@Irby

I have just been looking for the current ITPAS newsletter and cant find it to quote directly (the current one is not available on the website, sadly). However, IIRC the new one was supposed to be right next to the old one, but has actually been sited several meters away.

I DO want fibre, but I also think that OR should not be taking unilateral decisions like this.

ITPAS do a lot of good work, I think they have a point, the cabinet does look terrible in that location. I should take a photo so everyone can see just how bad it is!

I think the council would just say it isn't in a conservation area so there was no requirement for Openreach to pre-warn them about it. Therefore there's no legal means to help, you would literally be appealing to Openreach's good nature but if they've already got too far with it which I suspect they have then they won't move it.

If it's just a shell at the moment with no ducting to it then they can move it very cheaply, and should.

Sqwirral said (29th of June) that there was work going on outside the Anchor. I don't know if anyone has seen anything since or knows whether it is on power yet. Maybe worth a walk up there to check for any power/humming in evidence. Terribly divided feelings about this

Does anyone know if Open Reach are delaying activation of P7 in view of concerns over its siting or are they intending to go ahead as Icaras stated it will not be moved , no doubt some of the business's in Irby Village would benefit from Fibre BB.
I had a look the other day and TBH I didn't feel it stood out any more than FTTC 17 further up the road which is sited on the grass verge .

Edited by deleted (Wed 08-Jul-15 21:02:21)

BT Openreach currently outside smaller cabinet 4 with big black cables. Men working further towards bus stop by other green cabinet? Any idea what they are doing?

In reply to a post by leum07:

BT Openreach currently outside smaller cabinet 4 with big black cables. Men working further towards bus stop by other green cabinet? Any idea what they are doing?

Could be installing black tubing to hold yellow fibre cable to be installed later to cabinet ?

I wish they would hurry up and get cabinet 8 running. Haven't seen anyone near it recently, not sure if it's got power but I hope so otherwise they will be digging up a newly coated pavement.

If they are very thick black cables then they're repairing or adding E-side copper cables. These are the cables than run from the exchange to the cabinet.

We see Irby keeps going on and on and time to tidy up the Part 2 thread as its got long and clunky for the BBS to handle.

NOTE: When I said 'going on and on' I was referring to the Irby exchange issues, rather than the user.

We have no problems with people starting a part III just link back to the relevant sub thread in this one.

Edited by MrSaffron (Fri 17-Jul-15 09:39:21)