Possible FTTP Install?

Hi all,

I noticed that BT had been out to survey the current PCP at the end of the estate and have done the usual spray paint of the white X where the new fibre cab will be about a month ago.

Despite my constant checking on the local council planning site nothing has appeared yet (sigh) but today BT Openreach have been out lifting man hole covers down the estate and when asked if they were installing fibre they said yes but it'll be a few months yet.

Could this mean that they are running fibre throughout the estate to the premise?

Cheers

Edinblade

In reply to a post by edinburghblade:

Hi all,

I noticed that BT had been out to survey the current PCP at the end of the estate and have done the usual spray paint of the white X where the new fibre cab will be about a month ago.

Despite my constant checking on the local council planning site nothing has appeared yet (sigh) but today BT Openreach have been out lifting man hole covers down the estate and when asked if they were installing fibre they said yes but it'll be a few months yet.

Could this mean that they are running fibre throughout the estate to the premise?

Cheers

Edinblade

Unlikely. Chances are it'll just be the fibre spine between the exchange and the cabinet.

If you are on a PCP connection (i.e. not an EO Line) and you have seen sprayed outlines within 10 or so metres from your PCP Cabinet (i.e. phone cabinet) then you will probably be getting FTTC and not FTTP.

I would also check on http://roadworks.org/ I seem to see more information on there than I do for my councils site.

Also a postcode helps.

Paul

Or another cabinet on the estate or past that estate

That's one hell of a jump you've made from the x on the road, to the lifting of manholes to.... FTTP!

I like your optimism though!

Haha! You need optimism!

The only reason I made the presumption (optimistically i might add!) was that they were running the fibre through the estate towards the PCP when the exchange is about 700 yards the opposite way away from the estate!

I suppose you can't guarantee that cables are run in a straight line eh

Postcode is EH6 5AB - i'm on PCP Leith 95

Can't find anything on the roadworks website nor the council's planning permission site...yet!

Looks like the end is in sight though! T minus 3 months ish!

Cheers

Edinblade

Sounds like the fibre is coming from a larger exchange rather than your one. This is very common.

The fibre cabinets are connected to the nearest large exchange (the fibre headend), which is often not the closest exchange.

In reply to a post by edinburghblade:

Postcode is EH6 5AB - i'm on PCP Leith 95

Can't find anything on the roadworks website nor the council's planning permission site...yet!

Looks like the end is in sight though! T minus 3 months ish!

Well I have this information, whether its correct who knows.

BT Exchange: Leith                                  Exchange Code: ESLEI 
Cabinet P95   FTTC Planned   Phase BDUK Scot Government 15a       Huawei

So you are down for FTTC and not FTTP, also seems a newish PCP cabinet due to it at most 3.5 years old.

Leith

Fibre broadband is currently available to some premises in this area.

Digital Scotland plans to extend fibre broadband coverage in this area. Work under the Digital Scotland programme means that additional premises in this area are currently expected to receive fibre broadband in the period July to December 2015.

Service availability is subject to available service provider product offerings and can be affected by technology constraints specific to individual circumstances. For more information and to order fibre broadband services, check with your Internet Service Provider or look on the Ofcom price comparison site http://consumers.ofcom.org.uk/tv-radio/price-compari... .

So you "may" be lucky and get fibre this year.

Paul

In reply to a post by Icaras:

Sounds like the fibre is coming from a larger exchange rather than your one. This is very common.

The fibre cabinets are connected to the nearest large exchange (the fibre headend), which is often not the closest exchange.

This is true, the fibre to my cab comes from a main road (Don't ask me anymore than that its just what I was told by the engineer laying the fibre) rather than my exchange, and a village next to me comes from the opposite direction to the exchange, so you never can predict where the fibre will come from.

In my case my cab has gone live before the cabs in my exchange village, so sometimes its a blessing.

It's on the CEC planning website now.
https://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/idoxpa-web/a...

Paul where did you get that Cab details from? Anything for EH6 6LP, cabinet 88

In reply to a post by Binary_Digit:

It's on the CEC planning website now.
https://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/idoxpa-web/a...

Paul where did you get that Cab details from? Anything for EH6 6LP, cabinet 88

I mostly use BT's DSL Checker, Where and when page and the site of the people that are doing the BDUK work.

I can see that your cabinet (PCP) is newish as in 3 to 4 years old due to its not included in the NGA List for 2011 where I can only find that postcode connected to exchange Granton (ESGRA) Cabinet 10 and carried 30% of the lines.

I can see its not part of the commercial rollout and covered by BDUK Scotland and it says their section at the exchange has been ready since 22nd May 2015 and seems that non of the cabinets upgraded by BDUK Scotland on that exchange has been completed as yet, so maybe all 14 cabinets under their program will be completed about the same time.

Anyway here is what I have found from the BDUK Scotland site:

Leith

Fibre broadband is currently available to some premises in this area.

Digital Scotland plans to extend fibre broadband coverage in this area. Work under the Digital Scotland programme means that additional premises in this area are currently expected to receive fibre broadband in the period July to December 2015. Service availability is subject to available service provider product offerings and can be affected by technology constraints specific to individual circumstances. For more information and to order fibre broadband services, check with your Internet Service Provider or look on the Ofcom price comparison site http://consumers.ofcom.org.uk/tv-radio/price-compari... .

and the following:

Your exchange is accepting orders but fibre broadband isn't available to you yet.

You are connected to cabinet number 88 on Edinburgh Leith exchange. The first homes and businesses in your exchange area (the coloured area on the map) now have access to fibre broadband.

Your exchange area contains one or more cabinets. As we roll-out fibre broadband we are connecting more and more of these cabinets to the fibre network. Due to the complexity of the engineering and planning process we are not able to connect all the cabinets in an exchange area at the same time. This means that, even once the first homes and businesses in an exchange area can get fibre broadband, it may be some time before it is available to most, or all, properties in an exchange area. Read our Deployment Story to find out more about how we are rolling out the fibre network.

As usual their site is once again not very helpful.
So as for a date I say between now and December, but as usual date can and often do get pushed back due to delays.

Paul

From what Im led to believe from Digital Scotland, No BDUK funded install in Scotland at present will be FTTP. Its all FTTC. Whether that may change downstream is anyone's guess, but I was told that the current contract excludes FTTP

I believe that is incorrect