Under Review to Enabled Area

The BT where and when page changed from "Under Review" to "Enabled Area" a few weeks ago, however I get this message when entering the phone number 01827 880232

Exchange name: Twycross

Status: Enabled area

Your area is enabled for Superfast Fibre but your cabinet is not ready yet so you can't place an order today. It is in our plans to be upgraded and we update this info weekly, so please check back later.

However, no cabinet has been stood and no works have started so whats going on here?

Thanks all!

Looking on http://www.dslchecker.bt.com/ you're connected to Cabinet 2.

Codelook shows there are some EO lines on that exchange..

Is it possible you've been migrated from an EO line to a cabinet, perhaps sited outside the exchange?

My line has recently been moved from EO to a cabinet.

Just a thought.

I recall I definitely am connected to Cabinet 2 (Seem to remember BT swapping my line over in that cab a few years ago due to noise on the line) I am 1.5 miles away from the cabinet by road, and cabinet 2 is also 1.5 miles away from the exchange in Twycross.

At that distance from the cabinet your fttc speed isn't going to be great

Seems it is the county council that is paying for my area to be superfast by the end of 2016. My village has approx 100 lines running to it, so if the speed is not above the superfast threshold of 24mb, could this indicate BT running fibre 1.5 miles from cabinet 2 and us having fttrn or fttdp? Cant see us getting fttp!!!

And has the council confirmed it will be funding an upgrade for cabinet 2?

Current understanding of Twycross exchange (Leicestershire BDUK project) is cabs 4 and 6 will be enabled and 4 is already live.

No sign of cab in the plans. The enabled area term refers to parts of an exchange having access to FTTC or FTTP.

In short you are dependent on future plans by the county council, and at 1.5 miles from the main cluster of users you will be more expensive to provide so may come a long way down the priority list since you would represent less value for money.

Cab 6 Is a brand new cab situated outside the exchange. and any EO lines now run through it and the new Fibre twin, so no EO lines exist.

Also can you have a look at this map?

http://blpc.atkinsgeospatial.com/Default.htm

Use postcode CV13 6NP to zoom in to my village. The cabinet is currently in Bilstone as shown on the map. The BT lines run right out of Bilstone, along the road and into Congerstone, approx 1/2 mile from cab, then up north a mile in a 100 pair armoured cable buried (not ducted) into Shackerstone.

Can you gather much from this info?

Yes their map is useless have my own and the simple truth is this that at 1.5miles (around 2.2km) superfast from VDSL2 is impossible and depending on the quality of the cabling you may get nothing from VDSL2

So what is my council upto? Installing false promises?

Has the council explicitly said superfast for everyone in the area?

Announcements are not normally worded in that way, so it may be careful wording by them that you have then being over optimistic on.

No one has said vdsl2 cabinets will deliver superfast to everyone, there are cabinets wherevthis does happen but others where it does not

To be honest, it is confusing what the council do promise! This is the site:

http://www.superfastleicestershire.org.uk/

"The county council�s overarching vision is to ensure that all premises can access superfast speeds by 2018."

Edited by 8skellerns (Tue 22-Sep-15 20:26:39)

Note that that statement reads 2018 and we are currently still in 2015. Who knows what will have happened by the end of 2018 which is over 39 months away.

My postcode when entered onto that maps states "Superfast broadband expected to become available in parts of this area by spring 2016" now as my postcode covers at most 4 premises and all are 1.5 miles from the cab!

Key word being PARTS rather than all

Im confused as my postcode only covers 4 premises, all 1.5 miles away from the cab and use the same cable into the village as the rest of the properties do. If 1 premise can get it, then the whole postcode should. The DP that covers my postcode's 4 properties is outside my bedroom window, next to where the villages 100 lines comes up in the manhole in the pavement before the rest of the lines then continue underground to other DP's dotted around the village.

Depends on their definition of area too. Checkers from projects often judt look at a cab area as a single point.

Ive asked the Leicestershire Broadband Project manager to review this thread and provide any feedback. This is the interesting response.

Hello Sam



Thank you for sharing this. I have reviewed your correspondence and make the following observations



Most importantly it has highlighted an error that has crept into our interactive mapping!!



- I note that Shackerstone is currently shaded blue and part of the fibre build to be deployed by the end of March 2016. This is incorrect. We have corresponded previously regarding deployment in S. Nothing has changed from our previous correspondence (see last e-mail of 10th June 2015). In this I confirm that expect fibre deployment to S as part of our Superfast Extension Programme contract with BT, subject to a survey of Openreach infrastructure. Currently we expect deployment to S between summer 2016 and end 2017. We cannot specify the timetable until BT has undertaken detailed planning. We do not have the information to confirm what speeds premises will be able to achieve. Also, we cannot fully determine how BT will deploy locally. We do expect more existing PCPs to be deployed with FTTC. This could include Twycross 2. I understand you think you are too far away to benefit from an uplift. The following, for example may happen. 1) BT may deploy and additional structure closer to your prem, 2) Vectoring may boost speeds over longer distances. It is all too early to determine at this stage, sorry.



- To reconfirm. There is an error on the Interactive Map. We have promptly taken this down and will amending it. I believe a number of areas are affected in the way we have represented deployment in their area. We believe that areas may be eligible for a subsidy to deliver the 100% Universal Service were incorrectly attributed as part of the fibre broadband deployment. Gov~t is piloting a scheme to be launched this Dec. We need to consider how to deliver locally.



- Shakerstone should be shaded vivid yellow



- All local authorities have access to postcode information outlining the expected fibre build. Unfortunately, some BT infrastructure does not 100% align to postcodes. We have to make a call on how we present the info we have. It is not perfect and we provide caveats on the Interactive Map. It does, however, llustrate the nature of the rollout.



Many apologies for the confusion caused. Happy to discuss further directly with you



Hope this helps



Matthew Kempson

Broadband Project Manager

So basically naff all is actually promised? All ifs and buts?

There is wiggle room and this why fibre availbility figures are higher than superfast availability