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Hi guys,
Just wondering if/when cabinet 1 on the Woodbury exchange will start it's fibre journey? The Superfast Openreach checker still has its status as "we are exploring solutions", but does anyone have more information on this?
Thanks,
William
Edited by deleted (Wed 08-Feb-17 07:53:28)
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If it's at exploring solutions there's basically no plans yet.
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Thanks. I would presume if any plans are made, then they would be FTTP at this stage? This was my previous address' cabinet, btw.
Edited by deleted (Mon 13-Feb-17 15:04:09)
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Why do you think that?
BDUK work is very much still ongoing and they prefer FTTC as it's more bang for their buck.
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Just that the exchange has been live since early last year.
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My exhange has been live for 4 years. My cab still isn't.
Exchange live date means nothing really. It's usually just the date the first cabinet on that exchange was activated.
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why on earth would you think FTTP -- think the CDS programme in terms of what be being delivered is now close to be being done - so don't thin k this is in any plan any time soon
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Exactly, because the programme is coming to a close FTTP is having to be rolled out.
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Just because BDUK schemes may be ending, absolutely does not mean any line not covered will automatically be provided with FTTP. What realm did you aquire that train of thought from?
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I never said they would, I just asked a question.
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Exactly, because the programme is coming to a close FTTP is having to be rolled out.
Implies you're saying it is being rolled out if a line is not already connected to a fibre cabinet.
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Oh, sorry. Yes, that did come over like you said. What I meant was that more areas are being upgraded to FTTP where it's not commercially viable to install a fibre cabinet, especially in rural areas like this cabinet location.
Edited by deleted (Mon 13-Feb-17 19:25:00)
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Some cabinets will get... nothing. The BDUK funding aims to get as many properties as possible to meet superfast speeds (24Mbps). When that funding has been spent, it's spent. FTTP is occasionally installed using BDUK funding to small groups of properties out of reach of "superfast" speeds from the local FTTC cabinet. It's all based on meeting targets though. They don't just install FTTP everywhere FTTC isn't viable though.
More rural areas are being given subsidised satellite broadband, or LOS (line of sight) broadband. There's a couple cabinets on my exchange I expect will never get a fibre twin installed. What I meant was that more areas are being upgraded to FTTP where it's not commercially viable to install a fibre cabinet, especially in rural areas like this cabinet location. If FTTC is not commercially viable doesn't mean FTTP is. FTTP usually cost much more. It's all about % of properties reached with superfast speeds.
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Ok, thanks for explaining John.
If you take a look at Stockland exchange, that has a lot of FTTP and little FTTC.
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Stockland has 1 "cabinet" comprising of roughly 15 postcodes that is fttp, 4 fttc and the rest is all EO.
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36 premises passed versus some 375 on FTTC.
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36 premises passed versus some 375 on FTTC.
I'll see your 36 and 375 and raise you our 623 premises unviable cabinet, over 10 x 48 port line cards in, with 2 x Huawei 288 cabinets.
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I think he's meaning only 36 fttp versus 375 fttc, proving william's incorrect statment of "alot of fttp"
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I think he's meaning only 36 fttp versus 375 fttc, proving william's incorrect statment of "alot of fttp"
Yeah there are a number of instances of that. FTTC where it delivers >24Mb with BDUK funded FTTP for the outliers. Scarily it's not unusual now.
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This is CDS phase 1, so the 90% target will be hit mostly using FTTC. Not much need for BT to resort to FTTP for that rollout.
So everyone is telling you your thinking is wrong.
But actually, it might be closer to FTTP than everyone thinks, but for a completely different reason... Phase 2 and Gigaclear.
If the area is left by BT in phase 1, it is open for Gigaclear in phase 2 and their FTTP rollout. At least if the exchange is in one of the 4 lots announced so far.
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That's what I meant. I just heard that FTTP was being used as an infill strategy for slow areas.
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It certainly is for some, but there's also still some commercial FTTC being done.
Not having superfast now, or even in 5 years from now is no guarantee you'll get FTTP. The only thing to do is wait and see 
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I see some everyday but then do spend more time than is healthy looking at the various roll-outs.
Those areas in CDS getting FTTP via BT are usually already flagged on the checkers as on the way.
As for Gigaclear, until they announce roll-out we won't know how much a blanket coverage they have in the areas they've won, e.g. will it include those getting 5 to 10 Mbps from VDSL2, or will they miss out etc etc
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