In reply to a post by WilliamGrimsley:

Exactly, because the programme is coming to a close FTTP is having to be rolled out.

Implies you're saying it is being rolled out if a line is not already connected to a fibre cabinet.

Oh, sorry. Yes, that did come over like you said. What I meant was that more areas are being upgraded to FTTP where it's not commercially viable to install a fibre cabinet, especially in rural areas like this cabinet location.

Edited by deleted (Mon 13-Feb-17 19:25:00)

Some cabinets will get... nothing. The BDUK funding aims to get as many properties as possible to meet superfast speeds (24Mbps). When that funding has been spent, it's spent. FTTP is occasionally installed using BDUK funding to small groups of properties out of reach of "superfast" speeds from the local FTTC cabinet. It's all based on meeting targets though. They don't just install FTTP everywhere FTTC isn't viable though.

More rural areas are being given subsidised satellite broadband, or LOS (line of sight) broadband. There's a couple cabinets on my exchange I expect will never get a fibre twin installed.

In reply to a post by WilliamGrimsley:

What I meant was that more areas are being upgraded to FTTP where it's not commercially viable to install a fibre cabinet, especially in rural areas like this cabinet location.

If FTTC is not commercially viable doesn't mean FTTP is. FTTP usually cost much more. It's all about % of properties reached with superfast speeds.

Ok, thanks for explaining John.

If you take a look at Stockland exchange, that has a lot of FTTP and little FTTC.

Stockland has 1 "cabinet" comprising of roughly 15 postcodes that is fttp, 4 fttc and the rest is all EO.

36 premises passed versus some 375 on FTTC.

In reply to a post by AndyHCZ:

36 premises passed versus some 375 on FTTC.

I'll see your 36 and 375 and raise you our 623 premises unviable cabinet, over 10 x 48 port line cards in, with 2 x Huawei 288 cabinets.

I think he's meaning only 36 fttp versus 375 fttc, proving william's incorrect statment of "alot of fttp"

In reply to a post by lee111s:

I think he's meaning only 36 fttp versus 375 fttc, proving william's incorrect statment of "alot of fttp"

Yeah there are a number of instances of that. FTTC where it delivers >24Mb with BDUK funded FTTP for the outliers. Scarily it's not unusual now.

This is CDS phase 1, so the 90% target will be hit mostly using FTTC. Not much need for BT to resort to FTTP for that rollout.

So everyone is telling you your thinking is wrong.

But actually, it might be closer to FTTP than everyone thinks, but for a completely different reason... Phase 2 and Gigaclear.

If the area is left by BT in phase 1, it is open for Gigaclear in phase 2 and their FTTP rollout. At least if the exchange is in one of the 4 lots announced so far.