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Standard User fredfox
(experienced) Mon 10-Jul-17 23:38:58
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ONT & BBU


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Hi all

I've got what I believe is a standard FTTP install with an ONT & BBU. I really don't need the BBU as the ONT is right by a UPS that I can use, and I don't use FVA. Is there any reason that I can't remove the BBU?

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 11-Jul-17 00:01:47
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Re: ONT & BBU


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Not that I can think of.
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(deleted) Tue 11-Jul-17 09:04:04
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Think yourself lucky, I had a FTTP install last week and didn't get the battery unit, just the ONT.


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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 11-Jul-17 09:07:35
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Think yourself lucky, I had a FTTP install last week and didn't get the battery unit, just the ONT.

Complain to your service provider .... though it's not actually causing any technical issue as such.

Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 11-Jul-17 09:09:10
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Should be OK, Worth keeping it nearby in case of issues in the future ...

Standard User fredfox
(experienced) Tue 11-Jul-17 14:15:37
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Thank you all, replies much appreciated smile

I take it that the PSU just plugs straight into the ONT instead of the BBU - seems like a simple question with an obvious answer but as it's not my kit I'd rather not make an incorrect assumption laugh

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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 11-Jul-17 14:36:12
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Yep, take the lead from the BBU to the ONTE out, and replace where you removed it from on the ONTE with your supply .......

'course if this causes issues, then expect a bill for repair.

Standard User Rastus
(experienced) Tue 11-Jul-17 15:29:40
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My BBU isn't actually installed, it's sitting in its box on a shelf. wink

However, that wouldn't be the way to do it with my ONT/BBU as the cable from the BBU has a different type of plug (with more connections) on it than the one from the PSU.

In my case I would unplug the round plug from the PSU which would/should be feeding the BBU and insert it into a different socket underneath the ONT marked 'Power' (i.e. not the socket on the side of the ONT marked 'BBU') wink

Edited by Rastus (Tue 11-Jul-17 15:32:54)

Standard User fredfox
(experienced) Tue 11-Jul-17 15:33:59
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Yep, risks etc... and pay for your own mistakes smile

Thanks.

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Standard User fredfox
(experienced) Tue 11-Jul-17 15:38:34
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The BBU power connector does go into the ONT power input. No idea what the other plug does, but one end of the cable has a CAT5 looking plug on it - even I'm not stupid enough to try and force a barrel connection into a rectangle socket.

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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 11-Jul-17 15:39:32
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However, that wouldn't be the way to do it with my ONT/BBU as the cable from the BBU has a different type of plug (with more connections) on it than the one from the PSU.

In my case I would unplug the round plug from the PSU which would/should be feeding the BBU and insert it into a different socket underneath the ONT marked 'Power' (i.e. not the socket on the side of the ONT marked 'BBU')

That was how I suggested it be done also.

Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 11-Jul-17 15:41:32
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The cat five connects in the middle hole on the bottom of the BBU, then to the multi pinned jobbie at t'other end on the right hand side of the ONTE

Standard User Rastus
(experienced) Tue 11-Jul-17 17:38:16
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In reply to a post by Zarjaz:
However, that wouldn't be the way to do it with my ONT/BBU as the cable from the BBU has a different type of plug (with more connections) on it than the one from the PSU.

In my case I would unplug the round plug from the PSU which would/should be feeding the BBU and insert it into a different socket underneath the ONT marked 'Power' (i.e. not the socket on the side of the ONT marked 'BBU')

That was how I suggested it be done also.


Yep, take the lead from the BBU to the ONTE out, and replace where you removed it from on the ONTE with your supply


Being pedantic wink, to me that means plug the power supply into the socket on the ONT you just removed the BBU lead from, whereas there are actually 2 different sockets ... at least that's how mine is. wink
Standard User Rastus
(experienced) Tue 11-Jul-17 17:47:55
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In reply to a post by Zarjaz:
The cat five connects in the middle hole on the bottom of the BBU, then to the multi pinned jobbie at t'other end on the right hand side of the ONTE


My BBU doesn't have a Cat5 cable (at least not with a RJ45 plug), although it does have a rectangular plug with a locking tab on the end of a fixed lead from the bottom of the unit. The only other connection is a normal barrel power connector socket.
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 11-Jul-17 18:14:47
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My BBU doesn't have a Cat5 cable (at least not with a RJ45 plug), although it does have a rectangular plug with a locking tab on the end of a fixed lead from the bottom of the unit.

Oh, the ones I have been using/trained on have always been the same for around 4 years....

Standard User Rastus
(experienced) Tue 11-Jul-17 18:25:17
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Mine was supplied 2 years ago, it's an ECI unit.

From the label on the box;

BT Item Code:064634
Description: NGA ECI-BBU-Battery Backup Unit
ECI Model (Cat No.) Y33493
ECI : BBU 4AA/C
AA27270L-A Rev: AE
etc.
Standard User fredfox
(experienced) Tue 11-Jul-17 19:34:39
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Good grief ! I didn't think this would go on for so long !

Here's a picture of the BBU I've just taken off the wall. Was installed Dec 2015.

https://postimg.org/image/mm3rt5n4v/

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Standard User Rastus
(experienced) Wed 12-Jul-17 10:37:48
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Well as you've shown us yours, I'll show mine!

https://postimg.org/image/u8kybmbhd/

Yours appears to have more connections than mine and the socket on yours does appear to be RJ45, however mine is definitely not RJ45. The connector has 2 rows of 4 'contacts', only 7 of which have a metallic conductor present. The only other connection on the unit is the power socket to the right.

The batteries (4 x AA) are accessed by sliding open the cover on the left.
Standard User fredfox
(experienced) Wed 12-Jul-17 12:43:50
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smile

The connection on the other end of the RJ45 looks similar to what you've got there and that plugs into the side of the ONT.

Batteries are 4xAA Ni-MH smile

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Standard User burakkucat
(experienced) Wed 12-Jul-17 13:23:06
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In reply to a post by fredfox:
. . . No idea what the other plug does, but one end of the cable has a CAT5 looking plug on it . . .
It is the telemetry cable, used to notify the ONT of the power supply status.

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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 12-Jul-17 14:03:42
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Never come across one like that before ??

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