Fttc Rollout

Hi

I am new to the foruns so I hope someone can help.

My exchange was fibre enabled 16 months ago and openreach only upgraded 2 cabinets in my area and have left the rest untouched. I learned today that an estate in the village is getting fttp and there were 4 OR vans with shiny new fibre coils. I asked the engineers and they confirmed it was fttp.

This estate is connected to the same cabinet as myself and yet nothing is happening to it. I put my details in the openreach website which gives me exploring solutions and its been that way for years and even though the exchange is enabled. I am roughly 750 meters away from the exchange and 150m from the cabinet.

I have tried to get answers from OR but they say nothing. None of the other cabinets in the village are being upgraded approx 7 of them. Is there a sort of cabinet rollout or something I can check.

Thanks

Openreach will provide FTTP infrastructure to new builds of 30 properties or more for free if the developer approaches them. This is probably what has occurred and why there are no other plans apparent.

Edited by witchunt (Mon 18-Sep-17 18:28:56)

Wow that estate is 8 to 10 years old. This is probably why the remaining cabinets are being left.

Maybe privately funded or BDUK funded.
Difficult to say without specifics

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Yeap without a postcode for a property that is on the estate getting FTTP hard to say anything else...

If the developer is still building (some estates do take years to reach completion e.g. North Swindon) they may have elected to pay to do FTTP on the older phases as well as taking the offer up for the newest premises.

Another possibility is that the estate has ducting all nicely ready to use, but those missing out have directly buried cables with no ducting so rolling out FTTP would be more costly.

Am I allowed to put a postcode here

Yes

Postcode where fttp is BS48 3GZ
Mine is BS48 3NB

Can see the build messages for Moor Lane, Long Thorn areas, which are across the other side of Station Road.

Who is paying i.e. council/community/commercial no idea but splits like this are not unknown for FTTP

Can you see anything at all for the other postcode even if the cabinet will be upgraded?

Nothing for the other postcode and others on the same side as Station Road as you are

Sighs as we have to rely on Openreach where I live.

In reply to a post by Nisa51:

Sighs as we have to rely on Openreach where I live.

Remember that Openreach isn't a charity but a commercial company answerable to its shareholders, or rather BT and its shareholders. If a cab isn't commercially viable to upgrade then it will need to be subsidised or "gap funded" in some way, be that through BDUK or those connected to the cab funding the upgrade themselves.

You are as reliant on every other provider as you are on Openreach. Openreach are no more obliged to provide a service than any other provider - have you tried speaking to Virgin or one of the other fibre providers to see if they have any plans? You are only relying on Openreach because no-one else sees it as financially viable to deliver a service to you.

Virgin cannot supply they cover part of the village only the core, I live on the outskirts as do many other people here. Ihave tried other fibre suppliers no one has any plans for this area except Openreach at the moment. I have come across a brick wall tbh.

Virgin "will not" supply rather than cannot. The same as Openreach, Virgin could supply anywhere but they don't because it doesn't make them enough profit. The same reasoning why Openreach don't supply everywhere but the reaction is always "I only have Openreach and they won't supply" - rather than "Virgin refuse to supply". Openreach are a business that has shareholders like many others and if they don't make a profit then they wouldn't be able to provide services for long.

The only people that can drive this are the government but either they legislate (eg USO) or they fund (eg BDUK).

Or you can get together the community and go direct to Openreach to ask them how much they would charge to serve the community and then all get together to pay it - that sorts out the profit issue for Openreach and can give you a solution sooner. The problem is that many people in a community aren't willing to pay because they believe Openreach should do it for them out of the kindness of their hearts.