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Standard User DavidA23
(newbie) Wed 04-Oct-17 14:15:46
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Hi
The village where I live has had FTTC for a couple of years now but a quarter of us were exchange only so had no access. Since then I've been attempting to get a date for when the problem could be resolved but as you might imagine it has been difficult getting an answer.
We even had a public meeting where an opensource rep & someone from Connecting Cambridgeshire were present. The opensource guy was so ill-informed that he didn't realise we had a problem but he promised to look into it.
Their first response was that it was unlikely to happen for quite a while because of technical problems & expense but they would get back to us in 12 months with an update. They didn't.

I plugged away and last month, with the help of our local MP, we got a date: the end of 2019. This is (still) reflected on the Connecting Cambridgeshire's website.
Then, yesterday I had several emails from various ISPs stating that it was (suddenly) available! I immediately checked the various deals & signed up. Whilst upgrading I asked TalkTalk why fibre was suddenly available & they said that they had upgraded their LLU equipment in our exchange.
I signed up for the superfast 76 MB/s but they're only promising 50 MB/s so I don't really understand how this has come about. I'd always been told that to supply fibre to EO premises would require two new green cabinets. I haven't any new cabinets appear in the village so I'm a littled puzzled as to how it has been achieved.
It's due to go live on 23rd October so I'll wait to see how it goes.
Standard User witchunt
(committed) Wed 04-Oct-17 14:27:26
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Or 1 new cabinet depending how it's been done.
Which exchange?
Standard User DavidA23
(newbie) Wed 04-Oct-17 14:29:53
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The exchange is Gamlingay


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Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 04-Oct-17 14:41:29
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TalkTalk putting LLU into the exchange is the reason they can now offer service to people who could already get FTTC from other suppliers - it has no bearing on the fact you can now get FTTC at all. Either BT have put in a new cabinet to serve you or someone has made a mistake in the database and the order could fail.
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Wed 04-Oct-17 14:50:56
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In reply to a post by DavidA23:
We even had a public meeting where an opensource rep & someone from Connecting Cambridgeshire were present. The opensource guy was so ill-informed that he didn't realise we had a problem but he promised to look into it.



Might have happened quicker if you had someone from BTs subsidiary Openreach there!


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Standard User DavidA23
(newbie) Wed 04-Oct-17 14:56:05
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Well, there's certainly no new cabinets in the vicinity so all I can think is that they have new added cabinets just outside the exchange (although I can't see them)
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 04-Oct-17 15:00:22
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In reply to a post by ian72:
TalkTalk putting LLU into the exchange is the reason they can now offer service to people who could already get FTTC from other suppliers - it has no bearing on the fact you can now get FTTC at all. Either BT have put in a new cabinet to serve you or someone has made a mistake in the database and the order could fail.


Still odd that it has accepted an order for FTTC though, sounds like a mistake. It sounds like a small exchange, so the fibre cabinets won�t be connected via that exchange anyway. They�ll go to a larger exchange.

I wonder if a new cabinet has gone into the exchange car park or something, where it�s not visible? Usually they�re on public land outside the exchange but once I saw a cabinet actually in the exchange car park itself, in North Wales.

OP, if you put your phone number into the BT Wholesale checker does it show a cabinet now or still no?
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 04-Oct-17 15:01:19
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Use http://www.dslchecker.bt.com/adsl/ADSLChecker.addres... by putting your postcode in first then selecting your address from the next screen. It may tell you what cabinet you're connected to.
Standard User DavidA23
(newbie) Wed 04-Oct-17 15:27:26
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OK, that tells me I'm connected to Cabinet 7.
All I need to do now is find where it's located.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 04-Oct-17 15:36:25
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https://www.google.com/maps/@52.15566,-0.192826,3a,2...
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 04-Oct-17 15:38:36
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Could have been some copper rearrangement done.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 04-Oct-17 15:46:06
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Most likely this.

My EO Line was eventually moved to an existing fibre cabinet (Even showed 'Exploring Solutions' on the OR checker, as if it wasn't to be done).

Only seems to happen with BDUK funding, and again, seems to happen randomly without warning. Doesn't always necessarily need new cabinets built.
Standard User DavidA23
(newbie) Wed 04-Oct-17 16:03:47
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I found cabinet 7 using UK Telecoms Tariff - codelook. It's slightly odd because that cab has been there for some time and is as far the opposite side of the exchange as is my house so, I'm not surprised when TalkTalk promise only up to 45MB/s on a 76 MB/s contract.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 04-Oct-17 16:12:51
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OK, that tells me I'm connected to Cabinet 7.
All I need to do now is find where it's located.


Interesting. So in the past the checker has shown that you were exchange only? Your order should go through then. Seems you�ve been moved to cabinet 7, only really possible if your line went past that cabinet originally anyway. Did it?
Standard User DavidA23
(newbie) Wed 04-Oct-17 16:17:40
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No it didn't.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 04-Oct-17 16:56:04
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Codelook cab location isn�t really accurate.

It just gives a centre of all the postcodes it serves.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 04-Oct-17 16:58:16
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Yes, agreed. This is more accurate, however it has limited coverage: https://windows.mouselike.org/be/index.asp?DoAction=...
Standard User DavidA23
(newbie) Wed 04-Oct-17 17:28:19
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Mouselike doesn't show cab locations but having visited various websites it seems that it's cab 7 or p7 which I know the location of. Whichever, I guess towards the end of the month when it goes live I'll see how it performs
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 04-Oct-17 17:28:57
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Cabinet 7 went live in 2015 but think it may have been a cabinet put in to serve some EO bundles back then, and subsequent to that some network rearrangement has got others onto it.

The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 04-Oct-17 17:55:24
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It does show cab locations?! If your postcode is connected to a cabinet, and providing Mouselike has the coverage for that cabinet, it will show you where it is within around 100 meters.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 04-Oct-17 17:57:10
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Only some.

It doesn�t show mine.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 04-Oct-17 18:02:04
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You're in an area that it doesn't cover then.
and providing Mouselike has the coverage for that cabinet

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Standard User DavidA23
(newbie) Wed 04-Oct-17 18:54:53
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Oddly enough, rather than showing cab locations at my postcode it shows on the map a route from here to Guisborough in Yorkshire!!! Pity I can't attach JPGs to illustrate.
I've looked at so many websites now that I've forgotton which one had a link to Google maps streetview showing cab 7
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 04-Oct-17 18:55:28
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Evening Andrew

If you turn the view around, that Cabinet 7 "disappears" in the 2009 view, the posted view is 2016, tying in with the posted 2015 installation date.
Standard User DavidA23
(newbie) Wed 04-Oct-17 18:59:31
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TalkTalk & Sky have had LLU in my exchange for a few years now which is how I've been able to get 13MB/s instead of about 5. I realised that an 'upgraded LLU' would have no bearing on fibre availability but then I was only communicating with sales rather than tech.
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(deleted) Wed 04-Oct-17 19:37:07
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Yeah, that's a common issue in areas that aren't covered. LOL.
Standard User R0NSKI
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 04-Oct-17 20:21:43
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And if you use the drop down by clicking the date top left, it's possible to view the different years, one view even has 2014 and the cab wasn't there then further confirming 2015

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