FTTP install to an outbuilding

Hi All,
A farm up the road from me has native FTTP available to it, and my house has line of sight to the farm outbuildings. In your collective experiences, what are the chances of getting OR to install FTTP, not to the farm house itself, but to one of the farm outbuildings?

Likely that the cable run would be overhead, so is it just a case of, "if it reaches without another pole being put in place", they'll install? If so, what is the maximum span?

I'd like to know before I approach the farm to host my connection I'm fed up of waiting and want to take matters in my own hands!

How far are the farm outbuildings from the main farm house?

Maximum span changes due to a variety of factors. But if you banked on around 50 to 70 meters I reckon you�d be in the right ball park.

How far are you from this outbuilding , might the owners let you dig in a duct between the two ?

I should clarify.

The outbuildings are about 100-150m from the farm house.

There's always the option to install at the farm house and trench/hang our own, but getting OR to do that is better

We are about 1.5Km from the outbuilding.

Edited by chrisdev (Thu 21-Dec-17 17:04:58)

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

How far are you from this outbuilding , might the owners let you dig in a duct between the two ?

It's possible yes, although it could potentially serve multiple properties, so PtMP wireless is probably easier.

does the outbuilding have power?
and if so, how does that get to it?

In reply to a post by ggremlin:

does the outbuilding have power?
and if so, how does that get to it?

I assume it does, but you make a good point! Knowing the farmers around here, probably just an armoured cable slung in the ground, duct costs money!

Edited by chrisdev (Thu 21-Dec-17 17:14:44)

1.5k .... yeah, that stuffs my theory.

100 - 150m from the main farmhouse might prove a stumbling point too. Especially if it�s a connectorised install.

In reply to a post by chrisdev:

what are the chances of getting OR to install FTTP, not to the farm house itself, but to one of the farm outbuildings?

Openreach installed a phone line into a weather proof enclosure outside a commercial building for me so I dont see why they wouldnt install a fibre into a farm building. I'd probably still use a weather proof enclosure for it inside the farm building to avoid dust etc.

Absolute no chance, new connectorized cable is 150m max from the CBT. If it was within a short distance you could of armoured cable cat6 cable from the ONT in the farmers out building but that�s out the window at 1.5km.

A decent switch with fibre will do though? The right SFP modules in the right switch will do anything from a few meters to 80km. No idea how much the fibre would cost, but FS.com do cheap sfp modules, and switches are anything from £30 upwards from ebay.

There's probably proper kit to do this

If the farmer is willing to co-operate then all you need to do is persuade BT/OR that you are setting up your own business in that building and you need comms before doing any other work.


And if it needs another pole - somewhere around £800-1000 then with you and a few neighbours the cost will be quite small for each of you.

Edited by MHC (Thu 21-Dec-17 22:54:11)

In reply to a post by fredfox:

A decent switch with fibre will do though? The right SFP modules in the right switch will do anything from a few meters to 80km. No idea how much the fibre would cost, but FS.com do cheap sfp modules, and switches are anything from £30 upwards from ebay.

There's probably proper kit to do this

I'm thinking just a media convertor for £25 would do, no need for a switch, but luckily I work for a company that makes pretty good ones

1.5km from farmers out building, average 60m span per pole, 25 poles £800-1000 a pole from OR talking £20k at least, that�s excluding any cabling on the pole, any wayleaves costs of land inbetween.

I was referring to the possible need of an extra pole to get the connection to the outbuilding.

1.5km from farmers out building

Maybe the OP was thinking a wifi link (they did mention line of sight)

Check out this YouTube user.

He has an FTTC connection from a "neighbour" connected via a Radio link to his and other properties. He uses some sort of Point to Point link and then a media converter (I think) and then routers and switches, but he is sharing it with other neighbours.

Technically he has 2 x FTTC connections as you can see in the videos. Look at the "tour" video and the remote location video.

I would assume (based on that video) that IF he managed to get OR to connect up an FTTC connection outside (as it appears to be) you could do the same with an FTTP connection.

Would the neighbour object to an enclosure being placed on the outside their house? I guess that would be cheaper and easier to install.

I hope that helps.

The top link was entitled �Pulling in fibre made easy with a LubeMaster 2000�

Eeeewww, now wash your browser.

I hadn't seen that!

Ewwww..

Wash your browser as well..

Merry Christmas Zarjaz

Screen wipes aplenty used already

... and a very Merry Christmas to you and yours CJT.

Actually the video was quite interesting...

FTTP related.

Many thanks