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Standard User AL66
(regular) Thu 01-Mar-18 16:51:24
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Re: BTnet - getting the runaround?


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If all the incoming lines come through the same internal DP I�d just move them myself as necessary to get them to where needed, local independent ex Openreach type guy could do it for you if you can find one.

Bonding rather than load balancing needs all bonded lines to be provided by the same ISP and for them to support it at their end. Think Andrews & Arnold might offer it. Never found the Draytek load balancing particularly useful. Proper bonding will make all bonded lines behave as a single fat pipe.

Nothing to stop you asking for a desktop survey for FTTPoD, no charge for that and should give an idea of the magnitude of ECC charges.
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(deleted) Thu 01-Mar-18 17:25:38
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BT are still going to charge for the build cost will just "absorb" up to £2,800 in the leased line deal
Standard User ferretuk
(member) Thu 01-Mar-18 17:33:21
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Silly question perhaps, but have you considered retaining the VDSL and supplementing it with a satellite solution?

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Standard User witchunt
(committed) Thu 01-Mar-18 20:47:05
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The leased line pricing will have to cover 2 segments, the mainline from the POP exchange to the local exchange and then the local section to the end user. A local access circuit would not have the mainline section.
As stated keep away from the express option as EFM is a poor substitute and the kit was not well supported .
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 04-Mar-18 19:25:09
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Thanks for this. Understand the EFM option now and yes, not ideal. Although we might look at bonded internet as well - esp. considering there are nine telephone lines already going into the site. All we're trying to do at the end of the day is get a little more upstream speed for VOIP. Personally, I think it's overkill - would be easier if they switched their mobiles to a nearby transmitter (O2 is 1.5km away).

I'm currently looking at an external 4G IAD with O2 SIM as an option. Would certainly be a much cheaper option esp. as that could plug into the existing Draytek Vigor as a 2nd load-balanced line.
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(deleted) Sun 04-Mar-18 19:26:17
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As it's the upstream speed that we're specifically looking at, I don't think satellite would work in this situation? Isn't that down only with up via normal methods?
Standard User witchunt
(committed) Sun 04-Mar-18 19:50:41
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Satellite broadband is 2 way but the latency is less than ideal for VOIP
Standard User ferretuk
(member) Sun 04-Mar-18 20:06:05
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You can get 5Mbps+ upload with satellite but I'd recommend keeping the VDSL for VOIP to reduce latency problems. Worth a chat with a specialist though as they'll have a better idea about congestion problems and the best data package for your circumstances (You won't get unlimited!)

What are your minimum requirements?

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 04-Mar-18 23:16:44
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This is like trying to solve a crime where bits of the puzzle are coming together. Could be that all this angst over leased lines, FTTPoD etc. could be solved by a very local company that I only came across by accident when somebody posted on the local Facebook group about improving rural internet.

http://www.vispa.net/business/wireless/

They started their trials just up the road in Mottram St. Andrew. How about that for coincidence. And my client is shown as been in the current service area.

Okay, so 40Mbps/40Mbps isn't going to set any speed records but that's x2 faster download than the existing VDSL2 but nearly x40 faster for upstream so VOIP becomes a non-issue. And it's uncontended like the leased line.

Install is a steal (compared to BTnet and FTTPoD) at £0 to £599. And the icing on the cake of £199.95 per month for unlimited usage.

I suspect this will be the solution unless one of the FTTPoD providers comes in with a stunning offer and by some outside chance, fibre installation costs aren't astronomical.

So all fingers crossed that they haven't fibbed about area covered smile
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 05-Mar-18 06:54:52
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Wouldn�t a mobile based solution be a bit �laggy� for voip use ?

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