Full Fibre Infrastructure Build (FFIB) vs FTTPoD

Good Morning,
I know that there are some clever people on this forum. I hope some of you can provide some guidance or clarification between the Openreach offerings.

Recently Open Reach announced the "Full Fibre Infrastructure Build (FFIB)". You can read more about this here on this link: https://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/home/products/ultra...

Now they also offer FTTPoD so I am trying to understand what the diffrence is between the two services. More importantly, if i get a quote for FTTPoD will this apply to FFIB?

Thank you

Think Openreach cover this off well - https://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/home/products/ultra...

Basically FFIB delivers leased lines however the leased line is delivered via connectorised blocks that allow for build of broadband FTTP and other leased lines from those blocks. It allows local authorities or others to subsidise deployment of Openreach full-fibre network closer to other premises as part of reaching their own premises.

FTTPoD is simply the build of GEA-FTTP infrastructure to a single property with any others served via the infrastructure a bonus, FFIB's entire point is providing infrastructure for others to connect to with a single anchor tenant, whomever ordered the FFIB, at the end of the chain.

@Ignitionnet first thank you for the explanation and i did read the pdf before i posted the question. Yet i might need further explanation.


When I asked what the difference between FFIB and FTTPoD i meant, if i have requested a quote can the same methodology be applied to either service. I.E can i choose between FFIB and FTTPoD ?

So what you are saying is:

FTTPoD: Openreach try to deliver the service to the premises which ordered the FTTPoD. , any houses or premises which is along that route is able to get FTTPoD yet it is not intended for more customers to join the cable loop. With FFIB that is not the case, rather it is build for intended to be used by anyone at anytime, so for example if someone later want to have access they can do so and use or pay just the costing of the cable from the closest duct to their premises. It is by far more flexible?

Thank you

You are over thinking things.

Simply put, FTTPoD is primarily intended for a single residential or business property. At the end of the build, any property connected to the same fibre DP as the property ordering the service will also get FTTP enabled.

FFIB is really intended for large private/public customers, such as a school, a hospital or a large corporation. Where the customer has multiple buildings on site (eg a hospital) then Openreach may decide to run multiple fibres from the final DP to each building, ie only the company/organization ordering the build is likely to benefit.

Edited by deleted (Wed 26-Dec-18 16:52:43)

I think you mean "not only the company/organization ordering the build is likely to benefit."

With FTTPoD, the build serves only one property - or a small cluster of properties sharing the same DP. The FTTPoD price quoted includes a £50 discount for each additional property which can be served, since OpenReach benefits from having the extra network footprint.

In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:

FFIB is really intended for large private/public customers, such as a school, a hospital or a large corporation. Where the customer has multiple buildings on site (eg a hospital) then Openreach may decide to run multiple fibres from the final DP to each building, ie only the company/organization ordering the build is likely to benefit.

What school, hospital or large corporation would want external fibre connections to all their buildings? I imagine take up will be around zero if that is the goal. Any rational large private/public customers will run their own fibres between their own buildings if they are on the same site. My personal experience working at a number of UK universities over the last two decades is this is exactly what *ALL* of them do. Heck many of them run their own fibres between sites, only if they have far flung campuses do they lease dark fibre from someone else. Accepting of course a sufficiently large organization might want two external connections for redundancy purposes, aka all universities I have worked at have two external connections.

In reply to a post by jabuzzard:

large organization might want two external connections for redundancy purposes

I've seen them go one further with diverse routing of the external cabling where the two providers had to prove what route they took to the companies building (e.g. in London Docklands I know of several large corps who insisted that one providers external cable came in from the east and the other from the west.

That's common even in a university. Typically they have more than one data centre and have a feed coming into each one. I think we are on a couple of 30Gbps links at my university, but there are faster ones on the way.

I did work at one university where the primary data centre had separate power feeds at two opposite corners of the building. Didn't stop some moron with a backhoe taking both mains feeds out with in the space of a single day digging a trench...