Any ideas about whats happened?

Hi

I'm in a semi-rural location 7km from my exchange. In March 2018 fibre was strung along poles on the road adjacent to our homes - this was after a lot of OR activity along this B-road and a couple of visits to our location from OR engineers (our phone line comes across our land on poles and they told me that the Network designers said fibre would have to be tunnelled across the fields from - the engineers said this was rubbish and it would come via the poles).

In summer our local Superfast project manager said we would be getting FTTH hopefully by the end of the year..

Nothing has happened so I asked again last week. Apparently we are now very unlikely to get Fibre at all because of a 'dramatic increase in costs' in connecting us the the fibre backbone. He is unclear as to why this should be but is writing to OR and BDUK about it.

Thats all going to take time so...

I wonder if anyone is aware of any reason why costs should rise so dramatically so quickly? I rather naively assumed that with the survey work that was going on, the project costs would be at least estimated well in advance of even stringing the fibre along the road for 3km.

At the moment I am just carrying on with 4G via a roof antenna as the term 'USO' has returned to my conversations with the Project Manager.

Maybe one small bit of land has a landowner holding out for a higher way leave settlement, or the need to dig up a road has been subsequently discovered

If the 4G is over 10 down and 1 up you already satisfy USO criteria

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Maybe one small bit of land has a landowner holding out for a higher way leave settlement, or the need to dig up a road has been subsequently discovered

If the 4G is over 10 down and 1 up you already satisfy USO criteria

Thanks Andrew.

Andrew may be right. When was the original survey done? I know from personal experience of the rollout in my area that OR catastrophically miscalculated the costs. How close is the fibre on the poles to you now are we talking yards here if so thats puzzling? (Poles are usually clearly marked)

Why don't you speak to your local BDUK team, they would have signed a legal contract with Openreach so they should know what the state of play is (most BDUK teams have monthly update meetings with Openreach) and if the additional costs have to be covered by Openreach or them.

In reply to a post by dect:

Why don't you speak to your local BDUK team, they would have signed a legal contract with Openreach so they should know what the state of play is (most BDUK teams have monthly update meetings with Openreach) and if the additional costs have to be covered by Openreach or them.

Err, I have spoken to them as I noted in my post - both last year and just last week. The Project Manager is writing to BDUK/OR to ask for clarification on the increased costs.

I simply wanted to get some ideas from others what the causes might potentially be.

In reply to a post by Garlic:

Andrew may be right. When was the original survey done? I know from personal experience of the rollout in my area that OR catastrophically miscalculated the costs. How close is the fibre on the poles to you now are we talking yards here if so thats puzzling? (Poles are usually clearly marked)

Originally done at the beginning of 2018 Feb/March.

Nearest fibre is at the end of the road 200m away.

In reply to a post by knighton:

Err, I have spoken to them as I noted in my post - both last year and just last week. The Project Manager is writing to BDUK/OR to ask for clarification on the increased costs.

I simply wanted to get some ideas from others what the causes might potentially be.

Sorry your post wasn't clear as you said your project manager was going to write to BDUK (and OR) even though you say he is BDUK!

I'll leave it to those with a crystal ball to speculate why your fibre infrastructure installation has stalled, there could be dozens of possible reasons but you won't be sure about your particular situation until your project manager gets back to you with his findings.

In reply to a post by knighton:

Originally done at the beginning of 2018 Feb/March.

Nearest fibre is at the end of the road 200m away.

ok i'm confused here. Can those on the "b" road order fttp ? and only you can't because the poles to your house are on your own land?

In reply to a post by knighton:

In reply to a post by Garlic:

Andrew may be right. When was the original survey done? I know from personal experience of the rollout in my area that OR catastrophically miscalculated the costs. How close is the fibre on the poles to you now are we talking yards here if so thats puzzling? (Poles are usually clearly marked)

Originally done at the beginning of 2018 Feb/March.

Nearest fibre is at the end of the road 200m away.

Hmm.. Assuming thats fibre terminating to a property or a joint (not just passing as a cable to somewhere else) I can't think of a good reason why if its that close on the pole you won't get fttp (eventually) Plenty of short term reasons perhaps but thats just not a difficult job. How many additional properties would be added if it extended in your direction. It could be a backhaul capacity issue esp on a ECI headend

(Such a recent survey should have an accurate understanding the rollout costs today which some of the earlier surveys weren't)

Edited by deleted (Mon 21-Jan-19 09:49:30)